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Things you just don't get

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. brokencycle

    brokencycle Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. With an undergrad in computer engineering, a lot of my classmates went to CA or WA for jobs at all the usual suspects, and none of them seem to hate their jobs - or at least not the ones who I ever talk to anymore.
     
  2. GreenFrog

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    For the financial independence crowd, you're right. I was referencing the "I'm XX-years-old and I only have $X,000 in savings and $XX,000 in debt. What should I do?" type.

    I'm all for financial independence, but fuck achieving that by slaving away through a job you hate and socking away 75% of your pay for 20 years. I'd rather save now, invest and start a small side business, hopefully obtain moderate success, and then live comfortably for the rest of my life. Obviously easier said than done, but a lot more achievable than most would think. Part of the appeal is the "be your own boss" thing. Cliche, but so true, for me at least.
     
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    As a small business myself, part of the appeal is hiding the money from taxes.

    Wait, I didn't mean that.
     
  4. Piobaire

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    I've said that about the union types I grew up with so many times. Live my entire working life poor so I can retire at 55 to...live my life poor. No thanks. Rather work and get a new Benz every few years, go out all the time, wear nice clothes, etc.
     
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  5. otc

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    I think the plan is supposed to be live your working life poor (but not like...actual poor...you'll never be questioning where your next meal comes from or what to do if your car breaks down) and then retire early to Thailand where you can live something akin to a UMC lifestyle (+ladyboys) for the last half to 2/3 of your life.
     
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  6. Piobaire

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    I know I've posted this many times before. The union mentality back where I'm from, for a fairly material number of folks, is to live poor (marginal house, buy cars second hand and drive them forever, big night out = fish fry at the Legion hall) so you can retire and sit around your crappy house, drive your used cars and then live in a 5th wheel three months a year in Florida or spend a couple weeks in Cancun (has to be Cancun) every winter. I have two siblings doing just that.
     
  7. Harold falcon

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    That's all gonna change as we get sexy robot bodies and live forever. You guys planning on Social Security are in for a shock when it gets disbanded. You will never stop working. Sorry.
     
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    If you have a sexy robot body that never dies... why would you need to work?
     
  9. GreenFrog

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    I wonder if those union "poors" end up living happier, more fulfilling lives because they live so simply.
     
  10. Harold falcon

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    You still gotta pay for your house, internet service, porn, hookers, blow, booze, gas for your car...
     
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    I don't have experience with middle America union poors, but the non union coastal poors that I grew up around were definitely not happier. Wealth doesn't cure misery but it's much better to be miserable rich than miserable poor
     
  12. Gibonius

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    The other financial mentality that baffles me is people who monetize all their free time. Like, I understand if you have short-term financial goals and need to sacrifice to hit them. But people with decent jobs driving Uber nights and weekends, so they can stuff more money into their retirement accounts? If you honest to God have a hobby that you can make money on and enjoy, awesome, but that rarely seems to be the case. Pretty modern trend too. It doesn't even seem to be an efficient way of making money unless you don't have useful professional skills. Work on building a business on the side or build your skills for your career if you really can't stand having any "wasted" time.
     
  13. lawyerdad

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    If you have kids there's a real benefit because they can surf the interwebz in the car and you don't have to talk to them.
    Or a spouse for that matter.
     
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    Money gives you freedom but for the rest , it's a bit more complicated.
     
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    If you're that energetic I would say to start something that would lead to eventual passive income.
     
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    My father in law is one of these guys that can't sit still for five seconds. He started volunteering as a paramedic on nights and weekends for fun (totally unrelated to his professional skills), had to take a bunch of qualification classes to get into it. Somewhere along the line he got certified to teach the classes. He'd actually take leave from work to teach classes sometimes. I thought he was nuts, until I found out that he's making thirty grand a year teaching like five hours a week.

    That's a hell of a lot better way to monetize your time than Uber driving. Not quite as good as passive income, but not too shabby.

    I don't have the energy for that kind of thing and don't really need the money enough to motivate me to try.
     
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  17. GreenFrog

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    I Uber'd my M5 a year ago in Dallas when I was home on the weekends (well, at least that was the plan). I was inspired by an Uber driver while traveling for work who quit her full time job as a mortgage broker (probably wasn't making much to begin with) because she was making so much more money with Uber. Also said she met cool, interesting people and was able to professionally 'match make' them with a network of riders she curated.

    In any case, I thought it'd be a decent way to make some side coin because I enjoyed driving anyway. If I met cool people, great.

    It sucked. I only did it for one weekend before it became evident it was a waste of fucking time. All the trips were short, 1-2 mile ones in stop-and-go traffic because I could only catch the weekend party crowd looking to party in Uptown Dallas. I always got the base fare of like $3 or $4 ferrying these people. Short trips naturally killed my gas mileage, meaning I was probably barely breaking even.

    And it's not like I could just drive as aggressively as I wished because.. safety. Although, I did get a ride request from some brahs who were into BMWs and were absolutely shocked that they were getting an M5 as a ride. Side note: the M5 is not available as a car to select as your vehicle when you sign up for Uber, so I had to pick the closest model -- the 535i -- which is what they thought they were getting.

    In any case, I did meet some interesting people. I picked up two documentary filmmakers from California who said they wanted to include me on their short on Uber drivers. I declined because they were pompous douchebags.
     
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  18. brokencycle

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    Forbes had an interesting article on people using uber as a networking platform or to boost sales in their other businesses:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonyous...eur-how-an-uber-driver-makes-252000-a-year/2/
     
  19. otc

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    Did that guy get fired immediately afterwards?

    I thought that uber frowned pretty heavily on soliciting to your passengers...and I doubt they like that he is running a network of "employee" drivers.
     
  20. brokencycle

    brokencycle Well-Known Member

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    Per the article "Does Uber support this?"

    “Absolutely,” Uber spokeswoman Kristin Carvell says. “One of the greatest things about the Uber platform is that it offers economic opportunity for a variety of drivers — full-time, part-time, veterans, teachers, artists, and students — in more than 260 cities around the world. Supporting and fueling the local economy is important to Uber and our driver partners help us to achieve this goal.”
     

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