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Things you just don't get

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. razl

    razl Well-Known Member

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    I'm really, really hoping that was just a brain cramp on Blackhood's part. I'm not a spelling-nanny but if somebody got a pilot's license without noticing and understanding the difference between yolk and yoke, there's a problem; you've got wonder "what other little things did they miss?"
     
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    This is what I am saying, even nice places will fuck this up.
     
  3. Blackhood

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    The downside of using Dragon!

    And to be fair I'm only PPL, I'm a tailor by profession. Though come to think of it shirts also have a yoke...
     
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    I have been to a Hooters exactly once. I ordered the Dom and wings, which is a bottle of Dom Perignon and some chicken wings. The wings were terrible but the Dom was acceptable. I got the feeling it is not something ordered often, even though it was prominent on the menu. I think it was around $110.

    The leggings the girls wear there under their shorts are creepy, because the colour never quite seemed to match their actual skin tone.
     
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  5. aravenel

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    Tinis are hard to order and get something good. For something so simple... And yeah, you feel like a jackass--"GIN NAME HERE martini, VERMOUTH NAME HERE vermouth, 4/5/whatever:1 on the vermouth, stirred, up, with a twist".

    I got a martini the other night with a twist that they didn't bother to actually twist. Just a piece of peel in the bottom of the glass. I had to fish it out with my fork and twist it myself.

    After I lectured one of my coworkers that a martini should always be made with gin, and a twist is the only appropriate garnish, he proceeded to order a dirty ketel martini. Which he didn't like. He may have done it just to spite me.
     
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    All these watch sporters have been military, maybe relevant. Mojito seems pretty standard, and no bullshit, Applebee's made a delicious one. Just don't eat the food there.
     
  7. Ambulance Chaser

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    It was at Public Bar/Club Five. Don't remember which incarnation it was. Both are bad and to be avoided without taking into account the poor drinkmaking abilities of the bartenders. I'm sure ESL next door can make a good martini, but you'll pay through the nose for that. Order beer there too.
     
  8. indesertum

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    Robert Hess has martini recipes from the turn of the century and most of them have a 1:1 recipe. He also claims that the dry in a dry martini used to signify to the bartender that the customer wanted their martini with dry vermouth and not sweet which was the standard in the late 1800s. As we know over time people took it to mean less vermouth to the point where now we have atomizers for vermouth and some bars will leave out the vermouth without telling you if you ask for a dry martini because people can no longer tell. How is a cold glass of gin a cocktail? Vermouth IMO tempers the harshness of gin and anything beyond 4:1 doesn't have enough balance. But I probably couldn't tell you if a martini is 4:1 or 5:1 blind unless I had them side by side. So grain of salt and all that. Try it with different ratios tho you might end up liking it with more vermouth. The one with sweet vermouth is very interesting.

    My conjecture is that the reason vodka martinis are so popular is that most bars will serve a very very dry martini and a cold glass of gin is pretty harsh and not welcoming to beginners. Vodka otoh is flavorless and easy to "enjoy" by virtue of blandness
     
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    Ok, you're excused :fistbump:
     
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    Palates changed around that time and dry was in vogue. They also added orange bitters. I also dont really think the history of the martini is all the relevant now.

    People order all sorts of all fucked up Martinis. I don't really have a problem with some abortion being served. I do take issue with a guy that can't follow instructions on an order.
     
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    Yeah. I thought that was interesting. Orange bitters in martinis. Apparently orange bitters were more popular. Might have to spring for a bottle.
     
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    I don't mind my Martinis shaken. The extra dilution is welcome. But if you shake you'd better double strain.
     
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    putting together a deck that will go around the world, and sometimes to people whose grasp of english is a little meh. We need a footnote so people don't confuse a certain element as being tied to equity. In that footnote, a colleague decided to use the word equitably.

    dumbass.
     
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    This many times. I actually sometimes like a manhattan shaken but if you're going to shake a clear cocktail I want it double strained. I'd have it triple strained but I don't have an epic beard
     
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    I've really loosened up on the whole Martini thing. I mean, I have the way I like them, but I've stopped being any sort of purist. I don't bother with the fact there's no such thing as a "vodka Martini" because in fact there is in that saying the phrase indicates a certain something to people that is understood. Yes, in reality it's a Kangaroo Kicker, but you're not going to get anything other than blank stares if you order one of those. Order a vodka martini and you're pretty likely to get straight vodka shaken and Hawthorne strained only into a cocktail glass with an olive in it. Another point would be there really is no such thing as a "martini glass" as that bad boy is actually a cocktail glass. However, if you ask for a cocktail glass these days you're pretty likely to get a rocks glass. /shrug

    The only thing I find intolerable is when someone behind the bar doesn't listen...which is usually unless you're a regular or you've wandered into a place that actually values service.
     
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    All fair points.

    It is remarkable how such minor tweaks to a martini change it so much as to be nearly unpalatable by some. Slightly tweak the spirit:vermouth ratio in a Manhattan for instance, and it may not be to your liking, but it's not likely to send people into fits. Do the same to a martini, and suddenly it's just WRONG. I'm just as guilty of this as anyone.

    I will definitely say that I am more cautious about ordering a martini than just about any other cocktail.
     
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    The Mendoza Line separating a bad bar from a decent one is the ability to make an Aviation/Last Word. These are relatively uncommon requests, but not so obscure that a good bartender does not know them off the top of his or her head. If the bartender gives you a puzzled look, get up and leave and don't go back.
     
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    When I'm out, and I feel like a tini, I'll order a vodka one as they are somehow harder to fuck up to my palate than a gin one (sort of what you're saying above.) However I cannot count the times I specifically say, "Three parts vodka, one part vermouth" and I still either get straight vodka or waaayyyy too much vermouth. It's actually quite amazing that you'd not make the drink per request when the patron is sitting right there watching you make it.
     
  19. Connemara

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    My dad has this weird obsession with Outback. The one in my hometown, which is a cookie cutter suburb with at least 20 chain restaurants, is always packed to the gills. Drive by on a Tuesday night at 6 and you'll see cars circling the parking lot for a spot.

    I just do not get it. The food is shit.
     
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    Two female co-workers were telling a story about a homemade ouija board they built. They went into detail about various dead people they spoke with, and without provocation from anyone listening to their story, swore that their fingers "weren't really even touching the piece, so it had to have been moving by itself." There's more, but it's too frustrating to type. One of them is 36.
     
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