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Things that you don't like spending lots of money on, and good sources for them.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Holdfast, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. YRR92

    YRR92 Well-Known Member

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    The best cheap jacket hangers come from Ikea -- at least, they're better than the Container Store. The only shoe trees I see at DSW are the kind where the back half is just a stick, rather than a filled-out heel.

    The best hanger I own comes from the Sheraton Hotel in Rochester, NY, where my great-great-uncle apparently stayed sometime during the '40s. He had an enviable reputation for stylish dress and fair dealing, but he did wear cuff monograms, so the hanger theft isn't really a surprise.
     
  2. Holdfast

    Holdfast Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, forgot about them. I have one quartz & one automatic (Omega Seamaster & Longines Conquest Heritage respectively, so neither being particularly expensive as far as watches go) and that's all I need & want. The only other watch I occasionally think about buying (or rather, digging out from whatever drawer I've lost my old one in) is an 80s/90s Casio digital, purely for the retro fun of it with some casual outfits. The whole mechanical/engineering aspect of watches that some people really get into just passes me by; totally not interested.
     
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  3. comrade

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    Your watch hierarchy reminds me of mine:

    Casio digital- a gift from my teen teen age daughter from the early 90s when I ran 20-30 miles a week

    A Gold Seiko Quartz - for social events such as SF Meet-Ups.

    An 18 carat Gold Omega Seamaster Deville Automatic from 1963- I am the original owner- I wear it a few times/ month
     
  4. comrade

    comrade Well-Known Member

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    Woven belts which I wear with jeans. Mine come from Macys and are about $20.00.
    They fall apart in about 9 months and I buy new ones. I am not intelligent enough to
    see the difference in similar belts costing 4 times as much at BB. One of these days I'll buy
    one at a much higher price to see how long it lasts.
     
  5. ImTheGroom

    ImTheGroom Well-Known Member

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    Socks. They never fit me properly, as I have very small feet, and no matter how much I spend on them, I wear through them quite quickly anyway. I used to get my day to day socks at Old Navy, but theirs seem to have been largely discontinued, at least in Canada. I'm now getting them at Winners, and have finally determined that Calvin Klein fit best, and are decent quality, lasting about as long as any others (longer than the Old Navy ones did) and they're more formal than Old Navy's. I can normally get the CK socks at Winners for $12 or $15 for a package of three pairs.

    Boxer shorts - I cannot fathom why a pair of boxer shorts, made of cotton, in general, costs more than $15, maybe $25 for high quality, lasting ones. It might be one thing if they were really comfortable, but only a select few fit really well, and those tend to be the expensive ones like Joe Boxer and Nautica. I buy whatever Winners has, that looks like about the right shape, and they are normally $10/pair or less, and that way, if it's not a good fit, I'm not out too much. Bluenotes (again a Canadian only store; sorry everyone else) used to have great ones, that would routinely be on sale for $15 per pair, or 3 for $12. I am not exaggerating. But, they changed their cut, and they now are definitely cut for teenage boys.

    I also buy my athletic type (underarmour and its multitude of variants) boxers at Winners, around the same price. Reebok makes some great ones, and I'm also fond of Layer 8, and a new one I've just tried, called (I think) Degree 32. Very supportive, which is critically important for all of the moving and jumping I do on the ice all day.
     
  6. jrd617

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    Pantharella socks from STP.

    I must have about about 40 pairs (grey, navy, brown, tan)
     
  7. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Well-Known Member

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    +1

    I love my Pantharella socks, but i only get them on clearance at Nordstrom Rack, about 30 pairs so far. Same with boxers, and undershirts...
     
  8. coldsalmon

    coldsalmon Well-Known Member

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    On SF, the cheap stuff is still 5 times more expensive than what normal people buy. My cheap socks are $7 a pair.
     
  9. dapperdoctor

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    I get undershirts from Marshalls or TJ Maxx.....shoe trees fro JAB....also, and this will get me ridiculed possibly, but I like the dress shirts and wool trousers from JAB as well. I have other brands and many of them, but I frequently look at the "deal of the day" on the JAB site to see if I can score something on the cheap. I often do. I find both their executive and signature wool trousers to be good quality for the low price and I frequently grab them for around 40 bucks and the dress shirts for 20 bucks.
     
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  10. ImTheGroom

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    Not quite a thing I "won't spend on" but I have recently realized that spending upward of $450 on an OTR suit, is simply absurd. MTM can be done for $600 at one local shop in town, and can be done in-shop at others (as opposed to sent out to a Montreal factory) for under $1000. Basically, once you cross $500, you're only paying for a brand. A bit off-topic, but just a recent discovery, that I'm sure isn't new to most people on here - let's not highjack the thread with a discussion of OtR vs. MtM. I'm sure that thread rages on somewhere else ;)
     
  11. jrd617

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    JAB also has good clothes brushes, tie racks, shoe racks for cheap during those sales
     
  12. Holdfast

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  13. RDiaz

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    Well, I see they are just a little over 20-25€ per pair (the cotton ones at least), so I could definately try them out... [​IMG]

    Also, I'm with you on watches. Would never think of getting anything above €150 - it's a purely functional accesory for me. As long as it's not fugly and it's accurate enough, I'm served.

    MTM can be VERY disappointing and a painful process to get right. If it wasn't for the possibility of being able to choose fabric, styling, etc., you'd be better off trying to find OTR that fits. Imagine commissioning that beautiful fabric you found on a book, then when the garment is done the fit is absolutely off and impossible to fix. That hurts. Lately, while saving for future bespoke pieces, I'm getting OTR instead of MTM - fabric choices are limited, but at least you can see how the garment looks on you; then with some minor alterations it could be great.
     
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  14. Macallan

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    Braces - plain white TM Lewin braces work for me

    Pocket squares - stocked up a few years ago, £15 a piece from Duchamp; never understood the need for expensive pocket squares.

    Collar stays - Hackett sell bone collar stays for £5/pair, do not see the point of expensive mop or silver stays.


    As for Bresciani socks I think they are worth the cost although I get them from the Edward Green sales for about £10.
     
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    In the MtM options I've found, the availability of styles and cuts has generally been comparable or better, within the same price point, to OTR. Also, with the exception of online, the fittings and alterations necessary upon delivery are included. Around here, alterations on OTR are generally not included if a suit is below $400-$500, and until you cross over $100, they generally only include hems, waists, and sleeve length. So, of the options I've researched, more is available MtM than OtR - OtR. Though the most currently fashionable styles tend to be most available OtR.

    That brings me to something else I won't pay full price for - Things that I can tell (or at least that I believe) are going to go out of fashion in less than three years! Does not matter whether it is a suit, jeans, a tie, shoes, etc., I try not to buy anything that will last 10 years, but look dated in 18 months.
     
  17. RDiaz

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    Yeah, of course much more is available in MTM (specially if done through a tailor, then you will have many fabric books at your disposal) but for me it's not worth the extra cost because there is a high likeliness of fit failure and headaches. My last commission did in fact turn out worse than the previous due to factory mistakes, and that's pretty bad. I prefer to see what I buy now, and leave "that nice cloth I saw in a book" for later, when I can get it properly made by a good bespoke tailor.

    You might also happen to stumble upon a $1000 RTW sportcoat with an amazing fabric that fits you like a glove - why not buy it if you can afford it? Yesterday I saw a nice tweed jacket that looked extremely flattering on me, and would only need a small adjustment for my low shoulder - it was €400, more than what I usually pay for a RTW coat, but I think it will end up in my closet. It just fits better than any MTM I've had, so why not?

    Of course, if you're lucky and get a nice fit out of MTM, it's a great value. But I've seen so many disasters compared to successes...
     
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  18. tdude

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    Collar stays. not that I don't appreciate the beauty of a good gold or MOP collar stay mind you, but . . . .

    on a sort of side note--steam irons. I get cheap ones to press my stuff. They get gunked up, and I have to purchase a new one every so often. Are good irons worth it?
     
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  19. Macallan

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    I have been using a Tefal iron with steam generator for about about 5.5yrs, I doubt that I will go back to an iron or stream iron.
     
  20. Ianiceman

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    My trusty Rowenta just decided to stop heating up any more after about twenty years. I think it might have cost me about $40 which was on the high side back then, but its been worth it i suppose.

    There used to places you could take items like steam irons and toasters to get thermostats replaced but in today's world everyone just tells you to dump them in a landfill and get new ones. Sad to see it go, it served me well.
     

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