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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. MGLL

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  2. no frills

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    Thanks, Keith T and other SF members. Oyes, I don't even own a safe.

    Rotation allows almost equal wrist time on a weekly basis for all six pieces. Not bad, really. Although the 3970 will be worn two days in a row today and tomorrow... [​IMG]

    Also, the wife rarely takes off her watches. Even sleeps with 'em. Heh heh.
     
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    i could not imagine buying a watch a not wearing it. would be physically painful.
     
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    Congrats, Frills! Looks incredible! Wear it in good health.
     
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    I will admit to a certain period of babying after getting a new watch :embar: After that, every watch gets used. It helps that I prefer to buy vintage or at least pre-owned, they usually come pre-scratched as well :)

    My Daytona and Master Chrono were both new puchases from my regular . The Daytona is now in regular rotation, never mind that the bezel is a scratch magnet. The rose gold MC is mostly used for dinners and occations, but the first hairlines and swirls have arrived.

    My 16610 Sub has taken quite a beating, and looks all the better for it. The only watch that gets a yearly checkup ...
     
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    So, er, where is it you live again? And, um, I was thinking, what kind of domestic alarm systems does everyone use? [​IMG]

    Haha. It looks even better out in the wild, Frilly. Absolutely beautiful. It actually makes me smile to look at it!
     
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    I'm not sure what you're getting at here, you're appearing to disagree but you're nearly in complete agreement with him.

    Take the example of the suit. It is an item that follows restrictions handed down by tradition, not unlike a mechanical watch. Your pick stitching and nice buttons are analogous to perlage in the sense that their value lies in the additional effort that their presence implies.

    Within the restrictions of what a suit is, a well made and fitted bespoke one will always beat a mass produced rtw one. Within the restrictions of what a mechanical watch is, a piece from the leading marques will always beat a Seagull or Christopher Ward. Same logic.

    The problem is that some people compare mechanical watches with quartz watches because they adopt the imo simplistic approach of thinking that a mechanical watch is merely all about timekeeping, which it isn't. It's like saying wearing a parka is better than wearing a suit because it covers your nakedness better. Or running shoes are superior to dress shoes because they are more comfortable. Completely ridiculous, of course.

    Then there are others who are seduced by a pretty dial and who forget or choose to ignore that innovation in movement design is of course an important part of the equation. A select few, like Thatguy, take it a step further and try their best to equate their literally skin deep appreciation of watches to some purposeful noble philosophical depth that is really only envy and class warfare by another name.

    Thus within the limitations of what defines a mechanical watch (and so separates a good mechanical watch from a poor one... which BTW includes care/effort in making) I am absolutely comfortable in saying that objectively my JLC is better than your Tag Heuer or IWC but worse than your patek.

    By all means buy what you like regardless of its "merit", I certainly still do. Like I said before it's an emotional hobby. But I still think it's always useful to have at the back of your mind a sort of objective scale to temper your impulses, lest today's infatuation becomes tomorrow's flip! :)
     
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    I enjoy the discussion, but I try to refrain to analyze my own collector psyche too closely. Not sure I'd like what I find :paranoia:

    I'm pretty sure I'm more moved by the need for peer recognition than I would like to admit. I have always tried to buy what I like, watches that make me smile. Be it ETAs in a pretty case or in-house movements with pedegree. The problem is that my preferences seem to be fickle and easily changed as I read and learn.
     
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    Congrats no frills on a stunning watch! This would be the end game for me if I had one.
     
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    Also, I congratulated Frills, but great pictures Stitch! You make that Panerai look absolutely delicious. I am going to be sure to not post any of my own watches for at least 10 pages :).
     
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    please tell me they are insured, or that you are POSITIVE they are covered under your homeowners policy in full.


    :embar: thanks, man! i appreciate you saying that.

    but you can still post pics. or like i offered frills, send them to me and i will take pics for you. :devil:
     
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    I'm in RI...so east coast and a few states north of you. Yea...I don't usually travel for Purim either.
    I don't think they travel well, but if you show up in costume [​IMG] you are more than welcome to have your fill of them
    +1
    I'd probably go through new watch withdrawl symptoms...which I hear can only cured by wearing the watch or purchaseing another.
     
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    I buy what I like, but I have generally avoided watches with ETA movements. ETA makes good reliable products. However, I have trouble getting past the feeling that if I buy something with an ETA movement, I am buying a case to hold a movement often found in far less expensive watches. Yes, the finish and case might be better if its in a $5,500 ETA powered watch vs a $2,000 ETA powered watch...but it would still bother me. Thats just my own issue with ETA movements, but I respect that different watches fit different needs and tastes, and even if a watch isn't for me it doesn't mean its not a good choice for someone else. There are still a few older ETA powered IWCs I might like to own someday if I ever get over my aversion to ETA movements.
     
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    ah, well, a freilechen purim! hopefully we can get together one of these days!

    :nodding:
     
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    My recent pickup!
    RGM Equation of Time model 22
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    i REALLY like that.
     
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    Congrats! Nice choice, I'm sure you will enjoy it.
     
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    Thanks for elaborating on your views on movements Dino. On the question of quartz, a results-oriented view on movements doesn't require one to prefer quartz watches. Just because one doesn't place much value on the artisanal craftsmanship aspect of watchmaking doesn't mean he can't appreciate the solution of interesting problems within clearly defined parameters that is the basis of the mechanical watchmaking enterprise. Personally I aspire to a pragmatic and results-oriented (forward-thinking?) approach to both clothes tailoring and watch movements, so tend to be less impressed by endeavors to complicate either for the sake of exclusivity or symbolizing labor/effort, neither of which have much value to me. That's not to discount the value of aesthetics and ornamentation - I of course recognize that a certain amount of pleasure can come when one looks at the display back of his watch from time to time. Likewise I'm not advocating a formulaic calculation for evaluating watches (x, y, z potential points for movement, dial, case, etc.) - clearly our favorite watches are the ones that appeal intuitively.
    Outstanding piece, pure class. Many congrats!
    Respectfully I think you've misunderstood the topic I'm discussing with Dino. I'm defending a functionalist/pragmatist criteria for evaluating movements against Dino's romantic approach. Don't really disagree with most points in your post, though some are so facile that I'd be embarrassed to make them myself.
     
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    WOW!! Simply perfect. I would love to see a group shot of your Pateks. You have too of my favourites in the 3940 and 3970.
     
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