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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. SoCal2NYC

    SoCal2NYC Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm...the Sinn Regulateur which is nicely priced at 1/5 of the IWC.

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  2. whnay.

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    What is Sinn's reputation amongst the watch frans?
     
  3. gdl203

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    What is Sinn's reputation amongst the watch frans?

    Very good. Sinn is generally considered the best of all the military watch makers (e.g. Fortis, Tutima...). They have some very standard military designs but also have iconic designs, especially the 142 (which was rebranded as Space 1 by Bell & Ross, who started in the watch business by rebranding and selling Sinn watches).

    I have a Sinn 142st (Lemania chrono) and it's an awesome watch. It competes head to head for wrist time with my Panerai and IWC - and often wins
     
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    Very good. Sinn is generally considered the best of all the military watch makers (e.g. Fortis, Tutima...). They have some very standard military designs but also have iconic designs, especially the 142 (which was rebranded as Space 1 by Bell & Ross, who started in the watch business by rebranding and selling Sinn watches).

    I have a Sinn 142st (Lemania chrono) and it's an awesome watch. It competes head to head for wrist time with my Panerai and IWC - and often wins


    Thanks Greg, so a nice priced alternative to the IWC 3714?
     
  5. mafoofan

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    What is Sinn's reputation amongst the watch frans?

    One of the better non-manufactures. The lower end watches in the line are a great value. However, the pricier, more complicated watches begin to overlap with offerings from more prestigious makers.
     
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    I like these on a strap.
     
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    I like these on a strap.


    Nice, very IWC GST-esque. However, I don't like the cut-off numerals on one and the singular '12' on the other.
     
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    One of the better non-manufactures. The lower end watches in the line are a great value. However, the pricier, more complicated watches begin to overlap with offerings from more prestigious makers.

    I am curious to hear your views of the quality of their more upmarket pieces. If I recall correctly, Helmut Sinn is no longer associated with the company he founded because of his disagreement with management's decision to expand from its no-nonsense, tool watch roots. I personally like the design of the Frankfurt Finance, but to me Sinn is about the 142, the pilot watches, like the 656 and the rarely mentioned 244, a watch that has always reminded me of the Porsche designed IWC, but in a good way. Sadly, prices have been steadily increasing. Watchbuys says it's because of the strong Euro; I wonder if something else is at work.
     
  9. gdl203

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    Thanks Greg, so a nice priced alternative to the IWC 3714?

    I'm not a big believer in "alternatives" when it comes to watches. I find that if you really lust after a specific watch (e.g. 3714 for you?), an "intermediate" purchase will not leave you satisfied and you will keep wanting that dream watch. I'd recommend saving more and getting what you really want (as long as it's an achievable goal, not a Breguet No.5 like me! [​IMG] ) rather than getting a more affordable alternative.

    Now, if you really like some of the Sinn designs, then I'd recommend to definitely go for it, and even maybe visit the factory in Germany and buy at the factory shop (I haven't done it but heard great things). I personally really like Sinn's military watches, but I'm not a fan of the dressier models. I also have a strong aversion to watches with really busy dials (e.g. the multiple tachymetre thingy on that second watch you posted, Ã la Breitling)
     
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    Very good. Sinn is generally considered the best of all the military watch makers (e.g. Fortis, Tutima...). They have some very standard military designs but also have iconic designs, especially the 142 (which was rebranded as Space 1 by Bell & Ross, who started in the watch business by rebranding and selling Sinn watches).

    I have a Sinn 142st (Lemania chrono) and it's an awesome watch. It competes head to head for wrist time with my Panerai and IWC - and often wins



    Where can you get Sinn watches for a good price?

    How does Sinn compare to Nomos?
     
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    Where can you get Sinn watches for a good price?

    How does Sinn compare to Nomos?


    I think that generally Sinn are considered to be of a sturdier construction than Nomos and are difficult to find at a discount. It has probably been noted earlier in this thread but timezone.com is an excellent resource for information on both of these brands.
     
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    Sinn is simply THE tool watch company. Have a look at the rugged EZMs, the U models or the fliegers and it is pretty obvious.

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    Where can you get Sinn watches for a good price?

    How does Sinn compare to Nomos?


    Hard to make a comparison between these two German brands since I can't think of too many of their models overlapping. In terms of style, Nomos makes dressy watches in a Bauhaus design. They are making a push to developing in-house movements although I think many of their models still have ETA inside. Sinn's product line is more diverse but they made their name making tool watches, , e.g. pilot's watch, diving watch, etc. Sinn uses ETA movements that they may modify and are more focused with the design of the cases and operations of the movements in adverse conditions.

    Sinn has a direct, internet sales approach and doesn't sell through brick and mortar dealers. The only authorized dealer in the US is www.watchbuys.com. I think they carry Nomos too. In terms of prestige, Sinn watches have a cult following for their tool watches. They've been worn by astronaughts and various German military/LE types which is the type of pedigree that built the brand. Nomos has caught the eye of the discerning, design concious types and is a favorite among the internet watch boards. I know for example that they are carried by Wempe in NYC along side Langes, JLCs, VC's etc. Both are great reverse snobbery watches that will be reconized by the cognoscenti. Can't go wrong with either one; it depends primarily on whether you want a dressy watch or not.
     
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    Sinn is simply THE tool watch company. Have a look at the rugged EZMs, the U models or the fliegers and it is pretty obvious.

    /M


    They are nice but Rolex is the real deal.
     
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    They are nice but Rolex is the real deal.

    I think Rolex made some very nice models in the past but these days they are really more status symbols than true tools.
     
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    They are nice but Rolex is the real deal.

    Naww, u di'int.
     
  17. mafoofan

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    I think Rolex made some very nice models in the past but these days they are really more status symbols than true tools.

    But who are we kidding when we call any expensive mechanical watch a 'tool'? Even a $1500 Sinn can't really be seen as a serious 'tool' watch when a Timex would be more reliable and durable for a fraction of the price.

    What do you think of the Submariner/Seadweller/Explorer I watches? These haven't changed all that much, with the exception of some extra attention to ornamentation (i.e. white gold numerals vs. printed ones).

    I think the main problem with Rolex isn't that the watches are any less 'tool'-like than before, but that too many people have come to value the brand chiefly for its prestige.
     
  18. Toiletduck

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    oo i think i've found my next watch

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    But who are we kidding when we call any expensive mechanical watch a 'tool'? Even a $1500 Sinn can't really be seen as a serious 'tool' watch when a Timex would be more reliable and durable for a fraction of the price.


    Timex is a satisfactory watch but is no more reliable or durable. Unless someone conducts a test of reliability or durability I think it is wise to consider expensive "tool" watches just as reliable as a Timex or even Seiko Divers.
     
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    oo i think i've found my next watch

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