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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Gianni Cerutti

    Gianni Cerutti Well-Known Member

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    I really like it ... always very good taste!
     
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  2. kungapa

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    Knowing that our hobby isn't necessarily driven by usefulness or function - what are your thoughts on "smart watches"?

    Pebble released one recently that does not look like a terrible gaudily painted accesory from Galaxy Quest - the Pebble Steel. I am almost inclined to try it out:

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    It doesn't look as terrible as previous smart watches. Will there be a point where the sheer usefulness of smart watches outweighs the lack of charm?
     
  3. Kaplan

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    The top one can double as a light beacon to detract boats from coming too close to the coast while you wear that at the beach.

    As for smart watches, I will have to see if one is a sell for me. I will be hard pressed to give up a Rolex for an Apple/Nike/Samsung/etc. thing that lets my doctor know my vitals. I get blood work done for free every time I donate blood so anything checked during a basic physical I already know. Why would I need a watch to tell me some body part aches that I already know about and have a doctors visit for.

    Now to play the opposite side, if I had a kid with some sort of special medical need and wearing this gadget would help, I would buy it in a heart beat. But are there enough of these instances to make a market out of? A recent Economist article touched on this and the regulations in this area are fuzzy.
     
  6. rnguy001

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    Cleav - Lovin' that PAM as usual. TChoy - wowza

    re: PiageT - clearly they are in a higher class of timepieces, and although I can appreciate their quality and beauty, they've never quite interested me. I too am not a fan of their choice of logo font, but maybe I'm missing the relevance or history behind their choice in lettering. True, it's a bit different, and I'm sure fans will love it, but it's not my cup of tea. I've handled some in person, and really can't find anything wrong with the watch per se, just no chemistry for me.

    Agree that it is just extremely rare to find a watch house that just puts out 100% winners. I mean IWC, Panerai, JLC, Rolex, they put out so many different models, there's just bound to be something that makes you cringe. I'm a huge Panerai fan, but have never been a fan of their models with the power reserve indicator on the dials for example. True, there are basically just Luminors and Radiomirs, but there's still a great amount of variability among their case designs and materials. I also am not a fan of those models with the Chinese characters/Kanji on the dial.
     
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    I love this. Very simple, elegant, subtle but yet a nice machine. Lovely!
     
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    I just cannot get into a watch that oversized. I bought a large Panerai on a whim and flipped it almost instantly.
     
  9. Dino944

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    [​IMG] Hadn't thought of that. Thanks for the laugh!

    As for Lange...I love the Lange 1/Lange 1 moonphase, and the Richard Lange...but most of the others I don't find that attractive....maybe not dogs...but still nothing I'd really want to own. As for Lobbs, they make great shoes...and they make some dogs I'd never wear, such as their Evesham loafer or the Edward. And for casual wear don't forget their Winner Sport (I'm not sure how anyone can feel like a winner wearing those). I think my grandmother had a pair of sneakers that looked like that 25 years ago, and I bet they were $50 or less. John Lobb makes some beautiful shoes and some dogs.
     
  10. mimo

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    You win on the Lobbs....it's a disgrace for a proper shoe company to produce something as vile as "sneakers". The Lange...well OK...I never knew they made a hip hop edition tourbillon. But my inner pimp, though acknowledging it's being entirely over the top, cannot see this as a "dog". Lange is innocent. Kind of. :)
     
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    Yeah. And Zegna and LP suck for making jeans too.
     
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  12. mimo

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    No disagreement from me.

    Now, another subject if I may: those of elephantine memory might recall my initial mockery of the Cartier Tank Solo XL, before later deciding that it is lovely. And it is. I think I have some more humble pie coming, on the perhaps more divisive matter of what I would call "luxury dive watches". Royal Oaks and Nautiluses (Nautili?) aside for a moment, I refer to the kind that have dive-y bezels and luminous markers, and even a proud dive-y history and a practical woven strap. They really have all the elements of a "proper" dive watch, except they're expensive and you'd cry if you scratched one. I know they make no sense. I have sneered at them. But they are somehow getting to me. I give you:

    The JLC Deep Sea Chronograph Cermet

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    the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bathyscaphe

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    The Bathyscaphe has a much more rugged and utilitarian look about it, but it is nevertheless in Daytona price range with sub-Sub capability. It's definitely for posing not diving. And as for the Deep Sea (and yes, it's the smooth lounge lizard Ti-ceramic one that tickles my fancy), it's even more money and as lickable as a matte black Lamborghini. And equally suited for rough terrain.

    The Blancpain in particular has proud history behind it, but at the end of the day, they're both pretentious desk-diving indulgences, aren't they? So is it OK to love them? Well, I think I might love them. Both of them. So there. Cast away.
     
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    I like the looks of the Bathyscaphe - but the date window really bothers me. That and the lack of a metal bracelet.
     
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    I think it is totally OK to love them. You can love something without buying it. I like them both, but I would never buy either of them.
     
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    I understand the reasoning behind a date window between 4 and 5...I just don't like it. As for desk divers, you are allowed to love them Mimo.
     
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    Hi Mimo,

    I don't mind expensive dive watches, but beyond a certain price range I'm not sure they do the trick for me. I have tried on the JLC Deep Sea Chrono and its nice. I thought I would like it more in person than I did. For me, in person it just fell a bit flat and I wasn't that impressed. Also, while it may have a diving history, unless you can activate the pushers without harming the watch (most watches you can't do that), I'd be concerned about accidentally bumping one of the pushers against something under water and introducing water to the movement...not a good idea. So I don't see it as a real diving watch...but most people (myself included) that own dive watches rarely or never dive with them. Beyond that, most actual divers rely on dive computers not watches. So on some level a dive watch is more a styling exercise as its probably a watch that might at best see use in a swimming pool. It's not that different than having real button holes on the sleeve of a suit jacket. I've never seen someone wearing a suit jacket, open the buttons to roll up the sleeves or for an actual purpose. Still its a nice touch.

    The Bathyscaphe is just a watch I find bland and unattractive. I'd rather have one of their other Fifty Fathom models. BP makes nice watches, and I tried on a Fifty-Fathoms in titanium about 2 years ago and it was a beautiful watch. However, in its price range there are almost always other watches I'd rather own. Two former AD's for BP that were near me couldn't give them away. Maybe they are more popular in other parts of the US or the world.
     
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    Big fan of the "regular" Fifty Fathoms, and if that watch was more like 42-43mm, I probably would have already purchased one. I especially like the sapphire bezel and of course the history of the watch is also a big draw.

    But I really haven't warmed up to the Bathyscaphe yet.

    Personally, I don't mind the sailcloth type strap, but the hour markers seem undersized for that dial, and I also don't care much for the hands on that piece. (Reminiscent of the Tissot PRS 516? Not a hater, but I just expect something different on this historically-inspired diver.)

    The JLC I do like, but as usual Dino makes a good point about the chrono pushers underwater....maybe Jaeger has engineered a solution there....I haven't the time to research that at the moment.


    To mimo's larger point about, shall we say, "evolving views" on certain watches-- or even an entire category of watches: I find myself guilty of same.

    Never say never again?

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    That JLC is beautiful. It's like a Speedmaster and a vintage Sub had a baby. I'd happily wear one, but would rather spend that much money on other watches.
     
  19. rnguy001

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    Love that JLC. It's frighteningly expensive but such an attractive watch. If it had a date then I'd probably have found someway or another to own one. Like maybe sell a kidney. But sadly my OCD has prevented me from entering the no-date territory. I agree with Dino about the fact that most true divers would likely want a computer or such. I think the JLC would be just fine for recreational water sports, and most people considering owning this watch aren't looking to do any major diving activities I would surmise.

    so yes - it is okay to love that watch.

    I also agree about the BP. It's a nice enough looking watch if not a bit sterile.. even Sinn-llike. The 4 oclock date also is a bit of contention for me but not the dealbreaker. I admit I haven't seen it in public. I do prefer it to the older BP FF though. Someone once likened the bezel to a toilet bowl cover and I could never get over that imprint in my mind.
     
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