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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. Newcomer

    Newcomer Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I prefer hand dates with a moonphase.

    I will say though, to me, I use my watch as much to check the time as I do to check the date.
     
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  2. Devoti

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    My IWC Mark XII pilot

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  3. jbarwick

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    Same here. Always seems like I am signing something with the date. I had surgery a few weeks back and while filling out forms I was more upset I wasn't allowed to wear my watch than about the surgery itself...I needed to know the time and date!
     
  4. mreister

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    Thanks for sharing this, Kungapa. These are some interesting data points. If I'm reading the above correctly, it looks like the ADs are capturing much more of the value chain that I had previously thought. Do you guys know of any other reselling business that can command ~40% gross margins? No wonder the ADs are getting squeezed out. Any chance you have the full study laying around that you could send my way? All this talk about the AD / boutique business model is making me think I ought to update the model I posted a while back...
     
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    strong agreement from em on both of these.

    on my JLC i like the date window at 3 because it symmetrical to the AM/PM at 9, and together with the small seconds at 6, it makes for a symmetrical look i like a lot.

    on my B&M capeland, i dont mind the date, but dont love it either.

    on the DJ i used to have i like the date with the cyclos lens, keeps the watch from being to bland imo

    on the 112 i specifically wanted a no date watch, but i still check it a few times a day when i need the date.
     
  6. no frills

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    W-oh! TWAT get-together in Las Vegas!
     
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  7. Cant kill da Rooster

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    Are you mr_macgee? I love military style and pilot watches particularly those connected to wwii, I don't know a lot about this one. Looks very similar to the Dirty Dozen except maybe the hands. Apparently it is not though.
     
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    Am in San Francisco for literally about seven hours, and had three hours to kill (don't ask me, I didn't come up with the scheduling). So walked around the Union Square area and wouldn't you know it, I wandered into Tourbillon and Shreve. Found an interesting women's piece at Shreve: Patek's 7071 in white gold, the "ladies first chronograph" (as they term it). Diamonds are inside the crystal versus right on the bezel, interesting touch. But even more interesting was the relative size: yes, it's a cushion case so those tend to be bigger, but check it out right beside my 36mm 3970P:

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    (All credit for the incredibly crappy picture goes to my Blackberry 9900).

    Relatively large looking case, 'no? Official case dimensions are 35mm by 39mm.

    Requisite picture by Union Square. Lovely afternoon. Cliche, I understand, but must not leave my heart in San Fran and all that.

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  9. dopey

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    Now that's a nice one!
     
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    Ah, that Mark XII is such a classic.
     
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    Serious question - why does IWC keep rolling out new pilot's watches? It is hard to see how the new designs improve the old ones and in some cases, you have a real decline (the new one is awful). Do people collect them and thus each new model generates additional sales? Or do they just like giving a new "Mark" to incremental changes and updates? For me, the highpoint was the XV on a bracelet, but the XII on a bracelet is also great.
     
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    its all about $ imo. new model new interest new sales. most people are not as picky as those of us here and have no idea what older models even looked like.
     
  13. Cant kill da Rooster

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    I think it benefits collectors of the XII and XV though.
     
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    Two words... i. Phone.
     
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  15. Devoti

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    Thanks and I agree, my Mark XII is so timeless, I keep looking at other pilot watches and for me my Mark XII seems to be the default. The only thing I want from it is about 2mm of more diameter which they did with the Mark XV. I'm not a fan of the newer models especially the recents versions, except maybe the XV.

    I definetely think the IWC pilot was a sleeper for a long time and then really came into demand and fame, I believe IWC made an attempt to capitalize on the fame with introducing newer models, larger sizes to appease the current trends. I don't agree with it
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    From a design standpoint, I think the XV was just about perfect. I do have a real soft spot for the XII, though, and that lovely JLC movement that powers it. I have been trying to convince a buddy of mine to sell me his for years now. No dice.
     
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    A big problem with the XV for me is the bracelet, the XII beads of rice version is so much more comfortable and imho better looking than the XV bracelet.
     
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    For pilot watches, I really like these...

    Paul Gerber Model 42 (yes, I see the lone date window)

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    SUF "Myrsky"

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  20. Devoti

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    37mm case dia without crown, huge for back in the day.
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