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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. in stitches

    in stitches Well-Known Member

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    were we talking about panerai before?

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    Find Finn Well-Known Member

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  3. mimo

    mimo Well-Known Member

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    No Stitch, I don't think that's been mentioned for quite a while. Not much call for it around here...


    (Forgive my ignorance, is that the 356? And is it for sale? With or without the shoes this time?)
     
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    I don't like that other thread. Seems like it would elicit a ton of questions regarding which <$200 watch is "best". Just get what you think looks good on your wrist at that price point. Here there is at least talk of better watches even if only a select few of us can afford them.

    I will comment on PAM though. I like the style of the watches, size, and most dials. My only issue is the large number of pieces with seemingly small variations that get different model numbers. I can't keep up which would make finding the one I like tough. Though I did look at the 8-day mentioned previously and I do like that. Something about have a reserve gauge on the face that I like but I know not everyone does.
     
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  5. mimo

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    ^^ Agree with all of the above. And everyone's definition of "poor man" is different. There are plenty of obscure vintage pieces or less celebrated makers popping up on this thread. Anyway, whether it's a $250k Breguet minute repeater or a sub $1k Stowa, it's nice to dream isn't it?

    There is only one TWAT. Stay on the CM side where it's nice.

    (And I also like those linear power reserve indicators on the face, although the ones on the back of the movement strike me as a bit impractical, if a charming oddity).


    Exhibit A: Rich Man
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    Exhibit B: Not-Rich-Man
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    Verdict: both TWAT-friendly
     
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  6. nocommando

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    Wow... that Breguet is complicated! But I'd take the Stowa and buy me a new car and house with the 249K $ left... [​IMG]
     
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    Ha, then you are on the wrong thread. :sly:
     
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  8. dopey

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    I don't really see the RO o Nautilus as a step up over the Explorer 1. As sport watches, which is what I really want, they are inferior (not as legible and likely not as sturdy). What they have is interesting, singular design, in a style that appeals to me. This is the VC that I want. It is no longer in production but I should be able to find it if I really looked:
    I continue to think it superior to every other dress watch I have seen.
     
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    ^^ that VC truly is lovely ^^


    yup, that is the 356 and it is for sale. no shoes on this one though.

    here are some more pics.

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  10. Kai

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    Magic 8 ball says . . . "very likely, only question is how far in the future."


    As for outgrowing Pateks, I certainly haven't stopped lusting for them.

    If I can ever justify the expense, I would definitely get one of these:

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  11. mimo

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    I meant a step up in price rather than function, so I think I agree with you. And that VC is truly beautiful.
     
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    +1 [​IMG]
    As for RO and Nautilus, I think you are defining step up/over based on what you would use it for. I've owned a 114270 Ex 1 and a RO 15202 both are great watches. However, without a doubt the workmanship (fit/finish), labor involved in making (either a RO or Nautilus), overall quality, and finish of their movements are far superior to that of the Ex1. Compare an Ex1 to a RO or Nautilus and the differences are really quite obvious. Also, I've never suffered from nor heard of legibility complaints with RO or Nautilus models (unless maybe you are considering some of the complicated models rather than time only). I think it should be noted that although a RO or Nautilus are AP and PP's versions of sport watches...they are not pure sport watches...they are almost a hybrid of a sport/dress watch...falling somewhere in between.

    As for sturdiness, I agree that I would not use a RO or Nautilus for any truly extreme sports. They simply are not sport watches in the way an Ex1 or Sub are. But I take really good care of my watches and probably would not wear a Rolex for something terribly extreme these days either. I used to beat the crap out of my first GMT Master and then a Daytona...and they could take it, but they looked like hell. Sure they can polish them up a bit a few times, but polishing causes them to loose their crisp beveled edges and even the best jobs are rarely the same as when it originally left the factory. I also learned that watches all beat to hell take a beating when you go to trade them in for something else. That being said, I think the Explorer 1 has a more rugged case (just 1 saphire crystal) and and bracelet. However, IMHO the fact that a RO or Nautilus are less rugged than an Explorer 1, does not make them (for lack of a better description) any less of a step above the Ex 1. Using just function as criteria one could say a Porsche 911 is not a step above a pick up truck because the Porsche won't hold much lumber. Durability is important and one should choose a watch appropriately for the activity, but it doesn't level the playing field.

    The VC is a great dress watch. An acquaintance had one and it was beautiful. They made them for many years so it should not be that difficult to locate one.
     
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  13. dopey

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    Dino:
    You have it right - I think of a sport watch in terms of what I would want from it. Legibility, durability and reliability in tough conditions. Can I read it at dusk in the rain or at night, or at 4:00 inside a tent? Am I positive that, for all the beating it has taken, wet, cold, etc. the timekeeping remains accurate, etc. In that sense, I think of the Explorer as superior to the RO or Naut (and maybe even better than a quartz). I understand the ways that that a RO or a Naut is "better" than an Explorer, but in this category, those things are less important to me (repeat: to me).
     
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  14. Hayward

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    Not to be pedantic but the Poor Man's Watch Thread is in Classic Menswear. It also has legitimate value in and of itself, though it could use better mentoring in taste. As we have seen in the last couple of pages, even Patek has come up with an incredibly tasteless wristwatch that is clearly aimed at the douche market.
     
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  15. in stitches

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    kai - i look forward to seeing your RGM soon. :)

    and i agree, the sky moon is amazing. would love to have one.
     
  16. mimo

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    It's in SWD spiritually, Hay. Probably.

    Nice to see you. :)
     
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    Love it!

    Also love this Piaget beauty as well:

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    (photo ripped from google)

    The spirit still urges me, dopey....
     
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    +1 for the 36mm Explorer I!!!

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    Whoa! I have become "adjectivified" (I think, if I remember my "grammer" correctly). What an honor. Wait. Imeldific is an "adjectivified" term too.... [​IMG]
     
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    The Altiplano is probably my favorite ultra thin. Its definitely on my wish list.
     
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