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The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Well-Known Member

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    I spoke to Razor, and suggest they call their new last: "U2"

    Will be posting my boots once my DSLR arrives...
     
  2. Ilovelobbs

    Ilovelobbs Well-Known Member

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    I have been told its a blended version of the R and P2 last....

    3636 is a "friendlier" version of the Chunky Budapester last.
     
  3. CHRK33

    CHRK33 Well-Known Member

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    What is up with all the sudden hate against Leffot and Epaulet? I have had some not stellar interactions with Leffot, but Mike and Epaulet have always been fantastic and very customer-service oriented.
     
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  4. FrankCowperwood

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    Agree.

    It seems unnecessary to call them gougers when they are simply running businesses.

    Yes, if you compare the price of a Carmina makeup from Epaulet (my frame of reference) and something similar from Carmina's Web shop, there's clearly a margin built in for Mike's time and effort and profit. Perfectly reasonable, as long as the price suits the buyer. And frankly, I don't even think it's that large a margin, once you take all costs of ordering yourself into consideration and include the fact that Carmina adds a 50% markup to MTOs now. Whether Carmina's prices are fair for the product is beyond my judgement, except to say that I own their shoes and boots.

    A related point is that we as individual buyers and, I assume, proxies as small operators have the chance, whether through luck or otherwise, to minimize duty, taxes, and brokerage fees. All of these are a legal necessity for a business importer such as Epaulet. I'm not arguing that any of these additional costs are fair, necessary, etc., but they are the legal status quo.

    I'm going to guess that the SF members who proxy Vass are including some margin in their pricing to cover costs and beyond as well. Again, perfectly fair and the customer will decide if their services are valuable at the price quoted.

    Anyway, I'm pretty happy with my first and so far only buying experience from Vass and I am looking forward to a second purchase. For the moment, my interest is in the more traditional lasts and the array of choices seems far more than enough to keep me occupied for a while.

    Finally, I agree that there should be payment methods beyond wire transfer. It's not the worst way to pay, and the appeal will depend on how pricing might change so that Vass would cover its fees associated with accepting credit cards or PayPal. But I do think the prospect of having to initiate a wire transfer is a step that will prevent at least some potential buyers from following through.
     
  5. RogerP

    RogerP Well-Known Member

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    The gouging comment seems grossly unfair to me. Nobody is forced to buy from a proxy seller. You don't like the price? Move on. Buy direct from Vass or shop another brand. You have choices. Obviously there are enough buyers willing to pay a premium for immediate delivery of an in-stock, ready-to-ship item, with quick and convenient payment options. Nobody is getting gouged.
     
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  6. Roguls

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    I agree with you. I'm ambivalent. I have a pair coming from Thom (the starter of this discussion). Perhaps I'll try Razor next (I have a suede boot in mind).
     
  7. Roguls

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    Frank, don't sell yourself short. Carmina, at Alden prices, are fair. At 20-30% higher, are priced high for a comparable (dare I say it - inferior at times) product.

    Vass at the same price (even less expensive) is a no-brainer.

    Vass could attempt to source some different leathers, though.
     
  8. FrankCowperwood

    FrankCowperwood Well-Known Member

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    Well a good portion of the value in both Vass and Carmina, to me, is that they are very customer oriented. Vass more so it seems, and at a very good price for an excellent product. That combination of quality, service, and price is what attracts me to the brand. Oh and I think the shoes are beautiful, as well.
     
  9. Odd I/O

    Odd I/O Well-Known Member

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    Who's Razor and what's his contact information? And was the €95 shipping for one pair of shoes?
     
  10. n-domino

    n-domino Well-Known Member

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    His name is Rezso Kuti and he is the sales manager of the shop. I am located in the states and was charged 45$ to ship one pair of shoes.
     
  11. Fiddler

    Fiddler Well-Known Member

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    Razor is Reszo...its pronounced Razor where you slur the 'Z'....like Erasure without the E.

    His contact is the Vass email on their site.

    Reszo pronounced literally sounds like Dustin Hoffman's character in Midnight Cowboy (Ratso).

    Razor sounds cool...like Vass.
     
  12. VRaivio

    VRaivio Well-Known Member

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    I had some problems when ordering my first pair, but this was back when Mr Kuti wasn't the man behind their emails. His English is good and proper, even with technical terms and such.
     
  13. Ilovelobbs

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    No no no....

    €95 was referring to the belt I was quoted. I ordered 2 pairs of MTO's and wanted matching belts to
    go with the suede/scotchgrain and calf.

    Think the belts were €95, then they reduced the belts down to €50 as goodwill, as I was ordering 2
    pairs of MTO's. Pictures to come shortly....I think I need to change my profile name to Ilovevass,
    don't think I have seen any Lobbs as stunning as my Vass.

    I had a choice of shipping to my UK home address or my Swiss work address. Both were €20 with Fedex.
    I choose UK as the Swiss tend to add a whopping 40% to my boots if it's coming from Fedex. As been stun before
    with handling and brokerage fees the lot. I am sure Fedex short for some Federal Agency.
     
  14. Silence

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    Can anyone compare fit between the AE 5 last and the Vass F last?

    If you wear a US9D in the 5 last, you are DA man. [​IMG]
     
  15. Slewfoot

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    How about we just let Vass do they want to do and we can decide if we want to buy the shoes or not? Sounds fair to me.
     
  16. edmorel

    edmorel Well-Known Member

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    you and your crazy ideas :crazy:
     
  17. Concordia

    Concordia Well-Known Member

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    Crazy to think of refusing to buy shoes-- right.
     
  18. Slewfoot

    Slewfoot Well-Known Member

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    What can I say? I'm a wild one!
     
  19. RogerP

    RogerP Well-Known Member

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    Pardon the porn intrusion, but the Oxblood double monks I posted earlier as incoming:[​IMG]

    Have now arrived:

    [​IMG]

    I'm a very happy camper.
     
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  20. TehBunny

    TehBunny Well-Known Member

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    ^sex....y socks :)
     
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