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The Teacher Thread

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by NewYorkIslander, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. deveandepot1

    deveandepot1 Well-Known Member

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  2. ryoneo

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    ^That's an insane amount of teachers. Same thing is happening to some teacher's I know in Philadelphia.
     
  3. Teacher

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    I like Teacher. One of my favorite posters.

    same here.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    ugh.

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  4. Teacher

    Teacher Well-Known Member

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    I've never taught elementary or secondary, so I really can't contribute to this thread from the teacher's point of view. (Plus, I'm one of the dreaded ADMIN now!) However, all three of my kids are going through our public schools, and for the most part, our experiences have been very positive. Sure there are lazy or incompetent teachers out there, and I'd agree that there aren't enough great ones, but that's also true of mechanics, doctors, sales clerks, and so forth.

    Second, and this may be a district-by-district thing, we've found that the various schools our kids have attended have encouraged artistic and intellectual creativity as much as can probably be reasonably allowed in a public school setting. My fifth-grade daughter is just now finishing her team's "roller coaster," a series of tubes and trackways the student teams design and build that send marbles along complicated pathways. The purpose is for the students to use and understand basic concepts of physics. Different parts of the contraptions are labeled with "inertia," "potential energy," "kinetic energy," etc. I'm sure the teacher had to help them out, but each one is vastly different. We got to see demonstrations the other day.

    Of course, we don't live in an enormous city with serious budget problems, and since this thread is about teachers and not schools/school districts, it really would be a disservice to focus on that. Budgets aside, most teachers have great hearts and try their best. They go into it for the love of seeing others succeed, not for the money (God knows) or the prestige (ha!).
     
  5. Chico2007

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    ^ I assume you heard about this. [​IMG]
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...icals_say.html

    Summary: NYC will ax 4666 teachers(1/12).


    I love when politicians argue that cutting teachers is a good way to meet the budget and/or save tax payers money.
    How about taking a look at all these worthless assemblymen and congress members in New York? An assemblyman in NY gets $79,500 a year..and they complain they haven't gotten a raise in years. But they don't talk about the $5,000 for every little committee they are on, or the $40,000 a year they charge in personal expenses.
    And people complain about teachers "only working 9 months a year"...you ever see the schedule of the NYS legislature? What a joke.
    Want to save tax payers money and make budget? Get rid of the looters and moochers!
     
  6. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Well-Known Member

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    ^ I assume you heard about this. [​IMG]
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...icals_say.html

    Summary: NYC will ax 4666 teachers(1/12).


    I'll believe it when I see it.

    While I do recognize some of the good things that Bloomberg's focus on reforming education has brought, he continues to politicize the issue, which does no one any good.

    His logic for stipping the Board of Education down is that it was full of cronyism and wasn't able to be changed by the people...look at his system now, with perhaps even more cronyism, and where the people have less of a voice, and when they do raise it, he calls them embarrasments. "What is this a Democracy?" were his exact words I believe.
     
  7. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Well-Known Member

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    So lets see if you guys can figure it out...this is what my kids have been working on while they ate the past few days:
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    The kids were given the three documents and asked to find out how they were connected and what government agency's files these were all found in. Once they figured that out, they were given further information and further questions. Once someone gets how they're connected and what agency they're from, I'll post the next level of questions.
     
  8. CBrown85

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    With all the politics and moaning about bad teachers, I still feel like we're going through a revolution and maybe even the first stages of a renaissance in educational philosophy, pedagogy and technology.
     
  9. Rambo

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    With all the politics and moaning about bad teachers, I still feel like we're going through a revolution and maybe even the first stages of a renaissance in educational philosophy, pedagogy and technology.
    Yeah, in Canada maybe.[​IMG]
     
  10. KenRose

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    Just saw this Rob, thanks for posting. I'm a PE teacher in Calgary, Canada. Started in 92, with one year off in 2000.
    Ken
     
  11. Dinhilion

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    My first year on the job - provisional teaching license after doing the alternative certification programme in Texas. I do economics, US government and history at a public high school with an 'international' focus. I also run the first aid, Amnesty International and UN clubs as well as assist with sports.

    So far, I really enjoy it! [​IMG]


    How was your experience with Alt cert? I'm in dallas considering going that direction.
     
  12. KenRose

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    I find the actual teaching very rewarding however if I had it over I would choose another profession, and I don't recommend it for people coming out for a number of reasons: - The Anti Teacher crowd is just too much to take sometimes. It doesn't seem to matter what the issue is, "all teachers are lazy, me first, ungrateful, bla bla bla". - Yes, teachers have the summers off. In Canada the kids are out for about 10 weeks per year. However, I work 80 hours a week during my 12 week track season, and about 50 to 60 hours when I'm not coaching track, so I feel that the time off is justified. It's pretty killer towards your personal life and health though. And by June 30 you are so tired that you need the break. There were a few times late August I'm starting a new school year and still feeling tired. That is not a good start. I'm pretty fortunate that almost all the kids like me a lot. I think this is because I have a pretty good sense of humor with them and I see them as individuals. I know, that's a clique, but it's true. If one takes an interest in each kid, and tries to be nice to them, it is REALLY hard for a kid to try and be uncooperative. I went into teaching for a couple reasons. Both my parents were teachers and I saw how they changed lives. Also, I had some teachers make a real impact to my self asteem in high school and I suppose I wanted to be like them a bit. Like I said, the profession really is rewarding. Nothing like helping a kid become an adult. But if you're going into teaching cause you think you'll have free time, (assuming you become a good teacher) then you are better off with another career.
    Sorry to throw things on the off-topic train here, but I just had a couple of questions. I've an undergrad business student, and I've been having mixed thoughts about careers. Teacher was on my list for quite a while, so any help would be gladly appreciated. 1.) Do you enjoy your job? (simple question, but I get a ton of mixed answers when asking my teachers) 2.) What parts do/don't you like about it? How do you deal with kids who don't exactly cooperate? 3.) What made you want to jump into the teaching field? Thanks.
     
  13. Chico2007

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    So lets see if you guys can figure it out...this is what my kids have been working on while they ate the past few days: [​IMG] [​IMG] The kids were given the three documents and asked to find out how they were connected and what government agency's files these were all found in. Once they figured that out, they were given further information and further questions. Once someone gets how they're connected and what agency they're from, I'll post the next level of questions.
    Mr. Pietropinto has received a letter from his Mother stating that she is very ill and wishes to see her son before she dies. Mr. Pietropinto has applied for a passport so he can travel to Italy. Perhaps they are from the US passport agency, State Department. I think your students are on the internet looking for answers. [​IMG] Trying to get a certificate of naturalization for Carmine Pietropinto. Can't blame them. [​IMG]
     
  14. CDFS

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    Mr. Pietropinto has received a letter from his Mother stating that she is very ill and wishes to see her son before she dies. Mr. Pietropinto has applied for a passport so he can travel to Italy. Perhaps they are from the US passport agency, State Department.
    I think your students are on the internet looking for answers. [​IMG] Trying to get a certificate of naturalization for Carmine Pietropinto. Can't blame them. [​IMG]


    And they've just found this answer.
     
  15. clee1982

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    I would teach high school math after I retire or something of that sort, can't imagine it as a career. It doesn't really pay that well..., though the experience is rewarding for the short time I voluntereed. Also I would like to correct people's perception that math is boring and hard to understand.
     
  16. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Pietropinto has received a letter from his Mother stating that she is very ill and wishes to see her son before she dies. Mr. Pietropinto has applied for a passport so he can travel to Italy. Perhaps they are from the US passport agency, State Department.

    I think your students are on the internet looking for answers. [​IMG] Trying to get a certificate of naturalization for Carmine Pietropinto. Can't blame them. [​IMG]


    And they've just found this answer.


    LOL, Great job Chico, you get a STAR!

    Now, what they needed to do once they found that out:

    The were told his application for a Passport was denied (a bit of a fib, because it wasn't). I used the big "N" looking mark and said it meant "no". I explained that there was also a letter from Carmine's boss, Chas J Nelson (the witness Stefano Donofrio was a co-wprker of Carmine) also recommending him for a passport. Also enclosed were Carmine's Cert of Naturalization and his own affadavit. I explained that Carmine had a wife and two children here in NYC he was supporting. Now the question I posed to them was:

    What does this mean for Carmine? What do you think he would do and why?

    What does his application denial say about the the lives of immigrants here in the United States around that time?

    This will then help introduce the next unit of study, "Urban Changes" and the Progressive Movement as well as encourage high order thinking and responses (something our school is focusing on due to new NAPE standards).

    Thanks for playing along! (Carmine was a first cousin of my great-grandmother).
     
  17. Chico2007

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    Thanks for playing along! (Carmine was a first cousin of my great-grandmother).

    Carmine was a tailor and you are a stylish man. It's in your blood, Ranger.[​IMG]
     
  18. JustinW

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    How was your experience with Alt cert? I'm in dallas considering going that direction.

    I did mine with ACT and would recommend them. You put down $650 up-front and pay the rest once you are employed. The classes are not difficult and moderately useful, though I didn't really start learning until I was on the job. The coaching for the two state exams was useful in that they went over a lot of past exams and the thought process of the examiners. Overall, I found the alt cert process a bit of a hassle, but not difficult at all and occasionally enjoyable.

    Some teachers with dip eds and ed degrees are a bit snobby towards alt certs - though I have more 'real' degrees, adult education and life experience than most of them, so I can just brush it off.

    The thing which surprised me the most in the hiring process was how much the 'other stuff' on a resume counted with many headmasters - whether you have children, are married, military service, church affiliation, club memberships and sporting groups and general indicators of 'character'.
     
  19. JustinW

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    Does anyone here teach Montessori? Ate some point I'd like to do the accreditation or at least look into this further.
     
  20. itsstillmatt

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    Does anyone here teach Montessori? Ate some point I'd like to do the accreditation or at least look into this further.
    My wife, who doesn't teach in classrooms but works with schools on curriculum and families on assessment has had pretty awful experiences with, and things to say about Montessori schools for anything other than normally able kids.
     

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