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The SW&D Crockett and Jones Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Alcibiades, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Well-Known Member

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    Crockett and Jones, the venerable English shoe and bootmaker, has a pretty good following over at the Men's Clothing board. However, the brand seems to be expanding distribution to outlets that would be more on SW&D's radar (likely to take advantage of the big increase in interest in men's high end shoes). Like Alden, the company makes shoes and boots that can be work both in business and casual settings, with wool pants and with denim.

    I've noticed C&J expanding their offerings at stores like Barneys to include more "fashion forward" items. For example, they launched this suede chukka on a red dainite sole at Barneys this year.

    http://www.barneys.com/Hartland/5010...efault,pd.html

    The brand has also started to distribute to J Crew. The various J Crew stores in NY have a number of models stocked, including short wingtips on dainite soles, black captoes on danite soles, regular brown captoes, etc. The fall line at J Crew seems to include wingtip boots in both pebble grain and seude as well as a chelsea boot.

    I personally bought the tan pebble grain "Coniston" boot from J Crew a few months ago. Sitting on a dainite sole, the boot is great for rainy spring days. I wear these with denim and chinos. Here is a picture of mine below:

    [​IMG]

    In addition, Crockett and Jones is another large manufacturer of cordovan shoes; most notably, they make Ralph Lauren's cordovan wingtips, loafers, PTBs, chukkas, etc. Most often these are marketed under the Darlton or Marlow lines.

    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/i...entPage=family

    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/i...entPage=family

    http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/i...entPage=family

    It's a sunny day here, so I'm going to try to get a nice outdoor photo of my Darlton cordovan tassels to post later in the day or tomorrow.

    In addition to RL, I believe Crockett and Jones makes branded shoes for Paul Stuart, among others. If you guys know of any other, please post them here.

    C&J shoes are well constructed and just look damn good. I know some people own these shoes on these forums; let's consolidate the info and create a good thread for visitors to learn more about them.
     
  2. 1969

    1969 Well-Known Member

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    This is a slippery slope here fellas, and it sometimes ends with pocket squares. Proceed with caution.
     
  3. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    I like the Severn & Chelsea 5.
    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  4. ManofKent

    ManofKent Well-Known Member

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    I've got a pair of Chelsea 5's and a pair of split-toes whose name escapes me. I like C&J but don't quite get the degree of love it gets on MC. They're nice shoes but not dramatically better than other offerings at the same or slightly lower price point...
     
  5. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Well-Known Member

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    C+J as SW+D is a pretty big stretch, but ehhhhh.... I wouldn't pick a pair of Conistons over an Alden boot, but C+J is unfadeable for mid priced, sleekly lasted shoes. I've dreamed about C+J's since I saw them in the Paul Smith store in Tokyo about 10 years ago, and I finally got a pair recently, some Edgewares, 348 last. Not SW+D: [​IMG] Want to get a couple other pairs of handgrade laceups soon.
     
  6. NAMOR

    NAMOR Well-Known Member

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    C+J as SW+D is a pretty big stretch, but ehhhhh....
    yeah, the line can blur a little but they have a place in both sub-fora. The Coniston boot is a perfect example. I have one pair that I dress up with wool trousers and another that has a commando sole that I wear with denim. They look appropriate in either situation
    I wouldn't pick a pair of Conistons over an Alden boot
    I would have seconded this notion 6 months ago but my opinions of Alden and C&J have changed. I think C&J makes as good a product as Alden, If not better. C&J's lasts are hands down better than Alden's, imo
     
  7. dmash

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    I bought some Cliffords about a month ago. Have received SO many compliments on them. [​IMG]
     
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    NAMOR Well-Known Member

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    I bought some Cliffords about a month ago. Have received SO many compliments on them. [​IMG]
    nice shoe. this is were the line starts to cross. this is clearly a MC item. is this your pic btw? if so, very nice [​IMG]
     
  9. dmash

    dmash Well-Known Member

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    nice shoe. this is were the line starts to cross. this is clearly a MC item. is this your pic btw? if so, very nice [​IMG]

    Not mine! Haha.

    Yeah, it is a little MC...but I mean anybody 21+ has to incorporate a little MC sometimes...even if you're SW&D at heart, haha.
     
  10. wj4

    wj4 Well-Known Member

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    I may join this club sooner than later since Barney's carries them now. I was unsure about buying online due to sizing/last uncertainties.
     
  11. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Well-Known Member

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    As promised

    Crockett and Jones for Ralph Lauren
    "Darlton" Tassel Loafer in dark brown cordovan
    J Crew Argyle Socks not quite otc

    [​IMG]
     
  12. dmash

    dmash Well-Known Member

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    I'd like some blue suede tassel loafers.
     
  13. zippyh

    zippyh Well-Known Member

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    Brown suede and green calf boots from Barney's.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. hendrix

    hendrix Well-Known Member

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    yeah, "Keswick" they're called.

    Was gonna buy a pair on B&S but the seller flaked. they're pretty awesome.

    so instead ordered some trickers with the same concept.
     
  15. Razele

    Razele Well-Known Member

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    Glad peeps are on the C+J tip, nice traditionally made shoes with modern lasts, great price.

    Way better then Alden IMO, I've handled and worn both extensively as well.
     
  16. corey.m

    corey.m Well-Known Member

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    I really like shoes on the 341 last with Jeans.

    I mostly wear the Sydney loafer and Westfield balmoral cap-toe brogue in dark brown calf.

    If I want be a bit fuck you I'll wear my Hallam's with jeans but the 348 really pushing it for SW&D.

    Thinking about the Barnwell or Coniston for this coming Winter.
     
  17. Shadeeq

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    Glad peeps are on the C+J tip, nice traditionally made shoes with modern lasts, great price.

    Way better then Alden IMO, I've handled and worn both extensively as well.


    I agree. I own four pairs of Alden's and just recently got my first C&J (Northcote boot). The construction is significantly better and the leather seems nicer as well.

    Still love my Leather Soul Aldens though.
     
  18. Johnny Amiga

    Johnny Amiga Well-Known Member

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    I've got a few pairs of C&J, def more on the MC side though (Lowndes obv and Connaught). Both are benchgrade afaik. As far as the quality goes, I'd put them somewhere near Trickers and Alden, maybe slightly nicer finishing. Anyways, the Coniston boot in the opening post is supernice, been looking to get one of those for awhile.

    Handgrades are sweet, but considering Vass are about the same price in europe (well, actually Vass are cheaper), I'd prolly look into those if I ever get into the whole MC thing.
     
  19. jet

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    Been wanting to pull the trigger for a couple years but still haven't thankfully.

    Don't really care for any of the square chiseled lasts, mine will def not be liked by mc due to pointed toe but with some cuffed trousers hide ya kids hide ya wife.
     
  20. jet

    jet Well-Known Member

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    Let's talking about sizing.
     

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