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The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jhcam8, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. hoit1981

    hoit1981 Well-Known Member

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    ^ Very interesting. I wonder how they will age.
     
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  3. Gabru

    Gabru Well-Known Member

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    C&J X BB in brown cordovan..

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  4. jhcam8

    jhcam8 Well-Known Member

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    Rider Boot Co., in British Racing Green shell for the holiday! [​IMG]
     
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    peppercorn78 Well-Known Member

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    @Deusis is the care regimen different for unglazed shell? Does it spot just as easily as regular shell? Does it have the same pull-up effect? Damnit I have so many questions.
     
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  7. Deusis

    Deusis Well-Known Member

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    Haha. Regimen TBD!

    I wore them yesterday and got some water/snow on them. Didn't really have much of an effect. Same type of shell feel but a bite more natural feeling. I wouldn't say regular shell has a pull-up but that is just me.

    I ordered about 25 sq. ft. of unglazed natural shell from Horween for my leather business so I can do some more testing if you have anything specific in mind when it arrives.
     
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  8. kwhitelaw

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  9. shunted22

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    Recent pickups from other members- 4 different makers

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  10. Gabru

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    Thanks..
     
  11. tkebh979

    tkebh979 Well-Known Member

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    For those of you with MTO AE and standard stock Carmina cordovan experience (@peppercorn78 , et al)... if price is the same, who do you choose? In the end, I find myself trying to decide if AE's recraft and local SA's are of greater value than my perception of Carmina's better quality.

    I'm not posing this as a hypothetical - I will likely be making an investment informed by this feedback. Thanks!
     
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  12. peppercorn78

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    Choose the one that fits you best. The only Carmina last that fits my foot is Detroit, and they only make two models on that last, PTB and LWB, both of which I have. The Carnina LWB is way more attractive than the AE MacNeil, IMO. Plus there's the clearly superior finishing and detailing. But other models on other lasts like Simpson or Rain or Forest wouldn't work for me, so I would chose AE or Alden, I suppose, in those cases.

    AEs clear advantage is the ability to easily return pairs that don't fit you, and have a pair that does quickly made for you if not in stock.

    If fit and knowledge of fit is removed as an issue, I would chose Carmina every time.
     
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  13. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Well-Known Member

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    Btw, Carmina PTBs today:

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  14. shunted22

    shunted22 Well-Known Member

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    Me too
     
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  15. shunted22

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    AE IMO, they both have issues but with Carmina it's a huge hassle when things go wrong. I like AEs finishing but Carmina has better build quality. With Carmina you risk running into the 'dry shell'.

    Of course I'd take the company which shall not be named over either :)
     
  16. Deusis

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    Not exactly a traditional shoe for this thread but it is shell...

    Horween Mahogany Shell Cordovan Sneakers from Rider Boot Company -- Full Image Album Here

    So here is something fun and different. A few months ago I emailed Ron Rider about the possibility of getting some shell cordovan sneakers made. We briefly emailed back and forth about it and he mentioned he thought about doing it before but didn't know how reasonably priced they could be made (with Horween shell). We both had a lot on our plate at the time so he just said he'd think about it.

    Fast forward to about a month ago when he was in Italy, he starts emailing me some pictures while he is at the Cortina factory of different variations of sneakers... cap toe, plain toe, low profile sole, high profile sole... He ends up giving me a call and we start talking through some of the details. He says they can make them in shell and wanted to know which type of specs I thought would look good.

    I immediately chose the plain toe style (I didn't think the cap toe looked particularly appealing) and couldn't really decide between the low profile or high profile. I end up asking if he can make me a pair in both so I can see and compare the differences. I really wanted to see how the soles will wear too. Ron made up two pairs for me in the Horween Mahogany Shell Cordovan color since he had a bit on hand so I could compare and test.

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    Higher profile on the feet

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  17. kennyg75

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    Great boot. What last are these on?
     
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    High profile sole! How much?
     
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    I really like the idea of shell sneakers, but I can't get behind paying for it if it can't be resoled.
     
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  20. Deusis

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    Price will probably be around $600 - $650.

    I'm going to confirm 100% that they can't be resoled. I don't think it'd be fair to say they can never be resoled since Randy the Cobbler could probably do it for a fee.
     

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