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The Rise of Style Forum-born Entrepreneurs and their Impact on Style

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by F. Corbera, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. RSS

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    Try the late Alan Clarke for a start.

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    I may look like the late Alan Clarke in that photo ... but alas, I am not he.
     
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    Try the late Alan Clarke for a start. [​IMG]
    Of course there are plenty of those characters left in the Tory party (the Rhees-Moggs, Rory Stewart, etc.), but I was just taking the opportunity for a pot shot: undeniably the party of Churchill has become the party of the banksters and total quality management (not that New Labour was very different). Macmillan on Thatcher: "It breaks my heart to see—and I cannot interfere—what is happening in our country today. This terrible strike, by the best men in the world, who beat the Kaiser’s and Hitler’s armies and never gave in. It is pointless and we cannot afford that kind of thing. Then there is the growing division of Conservative prosperity in the south and the ailing north and Midlands. We used to have battles and rows but they were quarrels. Now there is a new kind of wicked hatred that has been brought in by different types of people." Apologies for the digression.
     
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    I may look like the late Alan Clarke in that photo ... but alas, I am not he.
    Clarke was the archetypal roue. His diaries are good fun. He was a [military] historian before his political career. Wrote a book about Operation Barbarossa which was well received. His quip about fellow Tory politician Micheal Heseltine '...The trouble with Michael is that he had to buy his own furniture...' always makes me laugh. An inveterate snob but with a twinkle. Funny and very charming by all accounts
     
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    Apologies for the digression.
    Digression is just what this thread needs. Yours was a worthy one.
     
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    Clarke was the archetypal roue.

    His diaries are good fun.

    He was a [military] historian before his political career. Wrote a book about Operation Barbarossa which was well received.

    His quip about fellow Tory politician Micheal Heseltine '...The trouble with Michael is that he had to buy his own furniture...' always makes me laugh.

    An inveterate snob but with a twinkle. Funny and very charming by all accounts

    Given that line about furniture (one I must remember) I will he on the lookout for his diaries ... and will read them thoroughly!
     
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    Of course there are plenty of those characters left in the Tory party (the Rhees-Moggs, Rory Stewart, etc.), but I was just taking the opportunity for a pot shot: undeniably the party of Churchill has become the party of the banksters and total quality management (not that New Labour was very different). Macmillan on Thatcher: "It breaks my heart to see"”and I cannot interfere"”what is happening in our country today. This terrible strike, by the best men in the world, who beat the Kaiser's and Hitler's armies and never gave in. It is pointless and we cannot afford that kind of thing. Then there is the growing division of Conservative prosperity in the south and the ailing north and Midlands. We used to have battles and rows but they were quarrels. Now there is a new kind of wicked hatred that has been brought in by different types of people." Apologies for the digression.
    Ah, you're talking about Disrealian 'one nation conservatism' I think. If you are, I don't think that died with SuperMac, it carried on with Heath and beyond. There were several in Thatcher's first cabinets, know as 'wets' as opposed to the Thatcherite 'drys' but they were gradually weeded/bullied out. However, it seems to be coming back into vogue with the present lot. We shall see.
     
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    However [one nation conservatism] seems to be coming back into vogue with the present lot. We shall see.


    So the spin is working.
     
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    So the spin is working.
    [​IMG] As I added, we shall see.
     
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    You have no idea Otto, no idea. [​IMG]

    While I see and take your point on building a theoretical framework to evaluate RL experiences, IMO this more often than not does not happen.

    What happens instead is that someone will take a printout of XYZ poster to his bespoke tailor, and say 'make me look like this', as opposed to pointing out various specific features that he finds particularly desirable. No account is taken whatsoever of the tailor's skill, taste, flexibility, or most importantly - the client's suitability for the desired silhouette.

    In fact, I think that often the forum discusses 'silhouettes' and 'looks' (look how often this term comes up in WAYWRN) precisely because most participating members do not themselves understand completely what makes up a particular silhouette or look.


    fair enough. i have probably wrongly assumed that others share my deconstructionist and overanalytical tendencies. i should have known better based on the number of "GQ look" posts here (although they seem to have abated recently) [​IMG]
     

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