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The Quintessential Dress Shoe: Black Cap Toe Oxford

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by wurger, Sep 15, 2013.

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  1. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    It's also used for the decorative punch holes on the facing. e.g., Edward Green Berkeley.
     
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  2. chogall

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    Black. Captoe. Not Oxford.
     
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  3. marcodalondra

    marcodalondra Well-Known Member

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    I think that would classify as Swan neck stitch (not punch holes), and is often seen as the standard in balmoral shoes (the ones were the vamp go all the way to the back, like a balmoral boot). Just interested in finding old pictures of swan neck Oxford as I think I have one from late 1800
     
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    I call this shoe type a Balmoral oxford, different from Balmoral boots, because of that long side seam. I wonder if there's a handbook with codified, chiseled-in-stone names for all shoe and boot types.
     
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    What is this style called?
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    As per my message above, the term I know is swan neck oxfords, in this case captoe
     
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    Darkside, a swan's neck captoe oxford. Without that toe seam I would call it a swan's neck oxford. To make term's worse, there's also a swan's neck seam usually sewn next to the eyelets.
     
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    so with all of the "specialty" names clarified (i.e. adelaide or u-neck, swan neck, etc), what is the name of the classic balmoral cap toe with traditional stitching (like the AS Armfield, or even the AE Park Ave)?
     
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    Cap toe Oxford.
     
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    I think that is still an Oxford with Galosh stitch. Looking at my AS Wilson right now (cap toe galosh) and the box says 'Black Balmoral Oxford'.
     
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    Ok now that I know what it's called, I am looking for a black cap toe ADELAIDE with no brouging. It seems like most of you didn't like the ones I posted yesterday. As such, can you please give me some ideas. My budget is 450 max. Thanks in advance!!!
     
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    Those galosh/balmoral cap toe oxfords are really sharp (I usually do not like them). Are they bespoke?. Thanks, beautiful pair.
     
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    I recommend you stick to a normal cap toe, since Adelaide with no broguing is rare, well, I haven't seen any in RTW.
     
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    The cleanest looking adelaide I've spotted is perhaps the C&J Westbourne. At least, no medallion on the toe.
     
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    well what about my original post with these from Testoni? this is a clean captoe adelaide with no brouging. what do you think of them?

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    Oh! How about that. Good on ya!
     
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    do you like them. i'm kind of on the fence if i like these or a classic captoe oxford better.
     
  18. Zapasman

    Zapasman Well-Known Member

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    If you insist, sorry to tell you that they are awful to me.

    Listen to the other members.
     
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    ok thanks.
     
  20. wurger

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    Mosy, for 450, I would buy Loakes for less.
     

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