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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. benhour

    benhour Well-Known Member

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    The best for not changing the color is to take the shoes with you and find the matching color(as close as possible to the original)!! I a mid brown i think its the best so not to darken them !Dark brown especially cream polish from saphir or colonil ll darken them for sure (i have both creams and they are really dark with lot of pigment in them)
    Hope i helped!
     
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  2. mosy

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    Thanks. So Saphir mid-brown? What about the light brown (or even neutral), will those accomplish anything? (By the way, my pics uploaded funny. were you able to see them?)
     
  3. benhour

    benhour Well-Known Member

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    My personal experience says a very big no on using neutral -light brown on darker shoes (it ll cracked and look like dust at the areas where the shoe flex(vamp) )!Mid brown it ll be ok!

    Clicked on them and chrome downloaded them !! hahahaha
     
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  4. mosy

    mosy Well-Known Member

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    Is this type of deep creasing and soft "easy-to-press-in" leather normal for this area of the shoe? see here:
     
  5. Darell John

    Darell John Active Member

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    I have a couple of pairs and I would say that's quite unusual for a dress shoe.
     
  6. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    Appears to be lower quality leather with some fabric stuffed linings. My good old Cole Hann made in India GY Welted shoes had similar in the vamp and toe caps.
     
  7. Berners15

    Berners15 Well-Known Member

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    Well you continue to miss the point, which is hardly a great surprise to me.
    So you consider that Styleforum in general caters for the avaerage Joe public? Have you read the watch or car thread on here? Then let us further consider perhaps bespoke suits and shoes, hardly an average days shopping for an admin office worker. I'll throw it over to you as you seem to be willfully ignoring the point I was making. What percentage of the American population do you think have even heard of Gaziano and Girling, George Cleverley etc, let alone own a pair of their shoes?
    To be fair there are many very affluent people on here, that's not a bad thing, even though you imply that is what I'm saying.
    No I am not a communist or even a f**king communist as you so eloquently put it. Likewise I am not a complete retard; I would not presume to judge if you were left or right of centre politically speaking and to be fair, jdging by your eloquent prose, I would have a hard job knowing your IQ either so would find it hard to judge if you were a complete retard either.
    You are of course the man who just suggested polishing very light tan brogues with black shoe polish - I had to laugh because that bit of advice kind of says iit all really.
    Adieu mon ami
     
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  8. Berners15

    Berners15 Well-Known Member

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    That is true, and the reply was to someone questioning whether with the 1000+ pages on this thread, he doubted he could find 2 members that agreed on which conditioner to use.
    I agreed with that and that was the crux of my post. There are many on here that have posted very useful and often entertaing advice. Some are more opinionated than others. Some have even gone into the chemical analysis of various options for the ideal spit and shine.
    Whilst I find it mostly ammusing and harmless I was just pointing out that at 14yrs of age I could use my shoes as a mirror and I didn't need all the fancy products or science advice available on this thread, just Kiwi and spit/water.
    When I got 'proper shoes', Meltonian and Kiwi for many years sufficed. Shoes worn, for 20yrs or more, on a regular basis have have not cracked and their Goodyear welted soles have not leaked (good advert for the old pre Prada Church's shoes'.
    Then I get castigated by Mr traverscao and get called a communist.
    Mr traverscao advised Mr dylanh99 to put black polish on light tan shoes - I had to laugh at his rationale, I quote: "Put some black on the counters, stitching, and flexing areas, and keep doing that for a while. Once the area darken, lighten the color up over time. You'll achieve the faux-antiquing."
    Now as we all know, without getting the base tan darkened a bit, then perhaps selective polishing on the toe caps and heels 'and perhaps a smidgin on the broguing in a much darker brown we will not get the desired effect. Putting black on the areas suggested by Mr traverscao will only achieve 'faux-dirtying' and will be a bugger to ever get off again when the poor man has realised his ill advised mistake.
    Sorting the wheat from the chaff is very easy in an example like this as clearly Mr traverscao has given himself away with this bit of handy advice.
    Why would you offer a person advise on such a matter when in good faith dylanh99 may have followed it and ruined his lovely shoes. What on earth would possess someone to give advice on something they have clearly never done themselves. Black on dark brown maybe, but on light tan, I think not.
    There are some excellent shoe polishing videos on Youtube that pretty much cover all this thread in 5 minutes without the BS misinformation from the imposters and poseurs.
    I agree 100% though that there are some very edjucated and interesting post on here, that as well as the additional comedic value afforded by the traverscao's of this world make this thread one of the most entertaining on the forum.
     
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  9. Darell John

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    I stand corrected, rather "unusual for a good quality leather pair of dress shoes".
    Honestly to me it looks like a PVC coating on fabric. I might be of course wrong, as I regularly
    am in this kinda thing.
     
  10. patrickBOOTH

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    I think this is partly the thinking of the average Joe who is used to cheap goods made with cheap labor. A lot of people here aren't "rich" men, sure they have decent jobs and such, but rather have different priorities than many others. Some people are car people and spend more than they should there, some people collect rare books, some people invest in a fine wardrobe. I don't really think the average person knowing of expensive brands has anything to do with anything and I don't understand your point. Are you saying people are ignorant for buying the shoes they want because the average person won't know the difference?

    If you have some shoe advice you should offer it to the forum rather than laughing behind your computer screen. At least people here are willing to share.
     
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  11. Berners15

    Berners15 Well-Known Member

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    Oh my lord - nope the average Joe doesnt buy G&G shoes.
    Haven't hidden as have said use kiwi and cream, also I have advised not to put black polish on very light tan shoes. - all of which is hopefully useful advice Mr Richard Head
     
  12. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Well-Known Member

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    Wow, you're a real douchebag. Clearly you're just butthurt you can't afford nicer shoes.
     
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  13. mimo

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    Sounds like his shoes are OK. Perhaps a more concise posting style? But then we should cut him some slack as he did invent the Internet.
     
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  14. PCK1

    PCK1 Well-Known Member

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    @Berners15

    Stop wasting your time here picking fights...go out into the real world...and make something of yourself. Then you can buy your G&G's and flaunt them around.
     
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  15. dylanh99

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    Renomat for this, or something else? I like the idea, and am more than willing to invest the time in the shoes. I was worried that just going for a dark brown would muddy everything up. Thought about saphir's mid brown, but had the same concern. Thanks!

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  16. dylanh99

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    Last question: anyone recommend a particular brand and shade of tan shoe crème?
     
  17. phototristan

    phototristan Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know how much of the Saphir suede cleaner to use mixed with water? There does not appear to be instructions included on the box saying this information.


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  20. Darell John

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    If you want to to keep the shoes about the same saphier #03 should do the trick,
    Keep it the same for cream and paste, I like to mess around and would use a darker shade of paste polish. Dark brown and perhaps black selectively. However if you just wanna keep it as it is, just stick to #03.
    My shoes of a similar color I use neutral for the cream coat, can't be bothered to buy a tan cream and mid brown for the Polish coat, on the toes I went for black tips for a while, removed it. Mid brown polish after. Good thing about paste is that it comes off rather easily. Cream however contains more pigment which is a good thing to maintain color, but a pain to remove.
    So use paste to mess around and if you don't like it you can typically remove it later.
    I use renomat to remove the paste incase your wondering.
    As always, ymmv.
     

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