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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    Actually, 8 hours of sleep with 16 hours of awake time is 960 minutes per day. 10 pack @ 20 cigarette per pack = 200 cigarettes.

    That is 4.8 minutes per cigarette, which is about the same time it takes to smoke one cigarette casually.

    Thus, if Travers' story is true, his rival must be literally smoking non-stop when he's awake with a cigarette on his hand always.

    Or he smokes 2-4 cigarettes at a time.

    Either way its down right ridiculous if not improbable.
     
  2. traverscao

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    Did I stop anybody from chiming in? No. I just hate it when people stop others from talking.

    A "conditioner" is a term coined only so far recently as 10 - 20 years back for either emulsified oil or raw oil products in treatment of leather for the purpose of lubricating and moisturizing the fibers. Before that, there are terms like creams, dressings, or simply oils.

    Saying that leather will crack eventually will not make you sound anything right, even though you are not in the wrong. Leather quality change and vary from time frames to difference in tannage.

    Regarding how conditioning is ineffective for certain individuals, I cannot give a general answer - Barnum's effect is bullshit and unhelpful.

    Moreover, saying that once the leather leaves tannery the clock is set is as bollocks as Barnum's effect.
     
  3. traverscao

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    He was always seen with a cig on his fingers. Dude would slam anybody who doesn't smoke, and slam harder on anybody who convince others not to smoke.

    So much for an effort.
     
  4. mimo

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    The flights of nonsense in this thread become ever more bizarre. Put some of those oily shoes on and leave the damn house sometimes...
     
  5. traverscao

    traverscao Well-Known Member

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    Nope. They gotta be let absorbed and thoroughly brushed. LOL!!
     
  6. jaywhyy

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    Sometimes I wish some wealthy dude would run an RCT and a cohort study to see whether gemming failure is indeed a problem, or if conditioners/polish protect against cracking.

    Then I realize some of you would still find someway to bitch against the results.
     
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  7. DWFII

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    It doesn't make a difference whether gemming failure is a problem or not...the fundamental, undeniable fact is that given other alternatives and all else being equal, gemming is a deliberate and cynical attempt to fool people into believing that they are getting something they are not and a deliberate and knowing exercise in cheapening a product in order to increase profit margins.

    If a person doesn't care about that, there can be no significant reason to buy shoes costing more than $100.00...aside from the glitter, posturing and pretext.

    As for plastic or rubber vs leather, synthetics will wear / last longer than leather--both on the foot and in the landfill. Leather is an environmentally renewable, preserved product that is meant to wear out and be replaced...with an environmentally renewable product. Trying to preserve an already preserved product, at the expense of comfort, health, and the health of those creatures that share the bounty of the earth with us, is, almost by definition, insane. It is compounding wrong-headedness on wrong-headedness. It is fouling our own nests and a mental self-mutilation--a deliberate and willful choosing of ignorance.

    Given that leather is a preserved product, beyond a certain point, conditioners, in general, become nothing more than a PR and marketing gimmick to pick pockets. Grease on grease on grease is tantamount to doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result each time...and that is the definition of insanity.

    IMO...

    edited for punctuation and clarity
     
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  8. patrickBOOTH

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    Sorry, but I want to take credit for the shitstorm.
     
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  9. traverscao

    traverscao Well-Known Member

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    You got it Pat.

    It comes with a label that saids "Reno conditions the leather so well, I can have an orgy seeing that!" as well LOL!!!
     
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  11. patrickBOOTH

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    Those are totally serviceable.
     
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    It's good to see you back, Patrick. I was beginning to get worried about you!
     
  13. patrickBOOTH

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    What, because I didn't post for two days?
     
  14. chogall

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    Shoe poisoning from licking too much soles.
     
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    I've been using a shining method by shoe snob on YouTube. It involves cleaning, leather lotion/conditioner, pollish, then 4 subsequent water/pollish shinings. Is this a good method or are some saying that the conditioner/lotion is a waste of money/time?
     
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    I would consider those very wearable, too. If you are asking if there is any way to get the toe creases to disappear, then no, there is not. You may be able to smooth them out a bit by conditioning, then putting in shoe trees, but I suspect the former owner used trees too, by the way the uppers taper toward the heel. Most non-shell shoes will have some toe creases after only a few wearings, and as long as the leather isn't cracking or splitting, it's okay. I'd be tempted by those myself, if they were my size and brown.
     
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    I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with it. I wouldn't do the entire routine every time you care for your shoes. For example, "cleaning" with a brush can be done every time you wear them. As for the other steps, it completely depends how much you wear them and how you want them to look. But I would say generally speaking of the three, condition less often and wax more often and polish somewhere in between. As needed.
     
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    this is a great method for the once in a while routine. It is very thorough and keeps great care of the shoes.

    For normal use, brush them overtime.
    For every few, you can add either conditioner or polish as needed to keep it moisturized and with enough pigment in them.
    Use the wax if you want to keep a mirror shine. If you don't need the mirror, then just do it every once in a great while for added protective qualities.
     
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