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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that is effectively sanding down the shoe to a smooth surface thus "bring" out the shine...
     
  2. masernaut

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    Is that detrimental to the uppers?
     
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    That is good to hear! Something new I learned today about vigorous brushing.
     
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  5. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    Don't listen to me or you might got burned by Alden fans for listening to a non cordovan loving pagan.

    "Shining" is essentially smoothing out surfaces with abrasives; the smoother the surface the more shine it reflects. Adding wax to smooth out the pores will make life much easier.
     
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  6. Chowkin

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    Any chance of returning them since they have not been worn? The shoe trees might be partly to blame but then it could be the leather not being of good quality
     
  7. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

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    I may be nitpicking (but masernaut's follow up question shows that "sanding" may not be the best term to use.) I would just go back to the use of the word "sanding" and change that to something different (whatever that may be). I think the word sanding brings certain implications with it, which aren't true. Sanding is the removing of surface imperfections from the medium being sanded (such as wood), which creates fine particles of removed surface to make it smooth using an abrasive material like sand paper or steel wool. When you are obtaining a shine on a leather surface, you aren't modifying the leather surface itself, and no amount of brushing will harm the actual leather. You are modifying the soft polish (wax or cream) by spreading it over the imperfect leather surface, filling the pores, etc. A horse hair brush does not do anything to the leather itself, it only effects the polish.
     
  8. kwhunter

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    Anybody knows what kind of wax is hot applied to the edge of the soles? It is a wax that hardens when cold and makes the edges shiny and water tight (not that edge dressing though...).
    And where can that be bought?
    Thank you.
     
  9. kwhunter

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    Another question: I asked a couple shoe manufacturers about fitting metal toe taps to their soles and both said they neither do it, nor endorse it...
    I wonder why?! It is a common practice to prevent the excessive and premature wear of the tip of the sole.
     
  10. Ecstasy

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    Which ones? The ones I know do it.
     
  11. kwhunter

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    I recently inquired with Cheaney, was looking to buy online one of their full brogued boots. Prior to that I believe I asked Herring if they can fit toe taps (they are not makers per se, but they advised against it)..
     
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    They advised against it because they can't do it. Most of the high end shoe makers do it on their shoes.
     
  13. kwhunter

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    I know, and I think you're right, there could be no other reason.
     
  14. MoneyWellSpent

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    I'm not sure I'd go quite that far. There are certainly experts that don't recommend it or endorse it for valid reasons (such as potentially damaging the inseam or the insole).

    This thread bounces between using brass nails and metal toe plates, but it has a lot of good material:
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/329378/brass-nails-used-to-impede-shoe-wear/0_100#post_6100660

    For what it's worth, DWFII doesn't recommend them.
     
  15. kwhunter

    kwhunter Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.
    cons trip the balance in theirs favor...
     
  16. dbhdnhdbh

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    Quote: According to DWF doing this right requires a special tool. The wax is heated up and applied with the instrument. I think the wax is carnauba, which you can buy online, but I don't know how readily you will be able to melt and apply it.
     
  17. kwhunter

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    Thanks; the tool is nothing special, I can make it, skill is key; and for that I have a few shoes to practice. My last pair of shoes has the wax applied on the edge and it is nice and shiny and surprisingly, it's not peeling off. Anyhow, I want to be able to fix it and to apply wax to other shoes I have
     
  18. benhour

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    the wax they are using to the sole edge and heel you can find it at a cobbler supplier shop!!!(i dont now a specific store in the U.S)!!
    btw you can search for the products in the below pics!!!
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    or for just recoloring you can use that
    http://www.valmour.com/cleaning-products/waxing-dye-tanil-saphir,594

    btw i have used only the first one
     
  19. Sam H

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    I bought some J&M burgundy penny loafers. I know how J&M is regarded, I already have a wall of text post in the question thread about it. Anyway, that post had to be moderated because I'm new. By the time it was posted, I'd already found a bunch of similar complaints about how all penny's that are affordable seem to be cheaply plastic-y and crappy leather. I decided that was that, these are casual shoes and I'm not going to spend much more on a casual loafer I don't plan to wear in any formal or business setting so I took the advice of some AskAndyers who swore by stripping their shoes at home and refinishing. One post caught my eye in particular: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/...5-Weejuns-Rubbing-Alcohol&p=450649#post450649

    Sounds like this guy has the same issue! Same brand even. That sold me. I've never done anything beyond polishing dress shoes or oiling boots so this was a first for me.

    I decided to take these:
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    And turn them into these:

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    Here's an Imgur album of how I did this: http://imgur.com/a/5O1Mq

    A few things:
    1. This is my first attempt at any sort of refinishing
    2. I plan to wear these casually
    3. I know that at a certain point, it's still corrected grain leather, but if you know what plastic-y corrected grain looks like, you know how unbearably ugly it is. What I have made is something that has way more depth than the original product, was fun to do, and was cheap. I am not trying to front these as miracle replacements for high quality premium calfskin burgundy shoes but simply shoes with a much better color and not so ugly plastic pristine off the Macy's shelf look for casual usage.
     
  20. a recent grad

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    Ive brought it to a few cobblers around town today to get a second/third opinion and they said there must be something with the leather at that point because the crease is too defined. I brought it back to crane brothers and the owner said he would let me exchange them for a new pair, i am very happy it worked out fine because they are my first proper shoes.
     

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