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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. benhour

    benhour Well-Known Member

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    first of all i am really happy to see you back here!![​IMG]

    i am not sure about pine oil(to be honest i dont remember seenimg anywhere mentioning that) !! the only things are in renovateur for sure as far as i know is mink oil-beeswax-lanolin-aqua and not turpentine!!(i have read somewhere there is jojoba oil too but i am not sure for that)
    even i am not a great fun of shell i have to admit these are really nice shoes!!!
     
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  2. Gerry Nelson

    Gerry Nelson Well-Known Member

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    They look great! Hope you don't mind a few questions:

    How much pressure do you apply when you brush and do you brush very rapidly?
    Is this done with a very stiff horsehair brush?
    Also, did the Aldens look like that after the first brushing or did it take several wears and brushings to get it to that level?
     
  3. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Well-Known Member

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    AE and Alden shell comes from the same place, Horween. The difference is Alden puts their own dye over their shell to make it more their own. Also, they are better at simply polishing and finishing their shell before it leaves the factory. The higher end shoe makers that use shell for MTO do an incredible job. If you have ever seen St. Crispin/EG/G&G shell shoes they choose much better looking, more consistent hides and spend a lot more time making it look great. It is hard to believe it is even the same tannery as Alden and AE in some cases.
     
  4. Munky

    Munky Well-Known Member

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    My apologies, Ben, for suggesting that Reno contains turpentine. After looking again, like you, I can find no mention of turpentine. I can only find it in cream and wax.

    Given that I have real problems using Saphir products because of the 'side effects' they cause me, can anyone advise me of other, high quality preparations that are pretty much equal to Saphir ones? And ones that are likely to be available in the UK. I am looking for alternatives for Reno, shoe cream and shoe wax.

    My wife has suggested my getting an industrial face mask. [​IMG]
     
  5. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Well-Known Member

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    Lexol, or nappa cream from saphir.
     
  6. Munky

    Munky Well-Known Member

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    Thank you very much for that, Patrick.
     
  7. Numbernine

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    I am becoming a big fan of lexol . I have used it to great sucess on shell cordovan .Damn near free compared to reno and I just dont like venetian for some reason
     
  8. benhour

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    i ll agree with patrick and englade use lexol as a conditioner(i can count only on internet reviews cause they dont sell it here)!!i dont think you ll have any problem using renovateur( if you are some kind of sensitive to turpentine cause it hasnt any,)so i think you can keep up using it! now to the wax and cream polish part i ll sujest you try collonil 1909 polish line! they smell good, and they shine really easyly!they are quite cheaper from Saphir products!!
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    the first one (the one in the tube) is their premium leather conditioner 75ml! the 2 in the midle is their cream polish 100ml and the last one is their wax polish also in 100ml tin!! the prices in greece are about 7euro the conditioner-cleaner!9 euro the cream polish and 7euro the wax polish!!
    hope i helped ,Munky [​IMG]
     
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  9. patrickBOOTH

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    I wonder if you can huff saphir to catch a buzz? Anybody try it?
     
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    I'd say medium pressure with a big soft Florsheim HH brush that I bought in 1995. I absolutely love it. It's worn down wonderfully after all these years. The Alden did not look like that out of the box but pretty close. It took some time, maybe 30 min spread out over a few days. AE's come caked in polish and pigment. It takes hours of wiping down with a damp cloth, tons of brushing and a bit of Renovateur to get them to the same level as Alden. However, after some time, they both look equally lustrous.
    I'm well aware that Horween supplies shell to both mfrs. Our very own Mr. Copeland posted a link from The Hanger Project that told me all about them.
     
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  11. Munky

    Munky Well-Known Member

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    Many thanks, Ben! I appreciate yours and Patrick's advice. Not sure that I will be sniffing Saphir any time soon! [​IMG]
     
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    As far as brushing shell goes I recently changed up my style and I find it gives much better results .I now use a medium to heavy rapid"scrubbing" technique never lifting the brush from the shoe . Something someone posted thanks to whomever it was
     
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    Ben, I have found all of the Colloni 1909 items for sale on Amazon! This is excellent, thanks. Who knows, Colloni might be the new Saphir! [​IMG]
     
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    That's great i hope they ll serve you well ! i am really happy i helped!
     
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    David Copeland?
     
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    I have no personal experience with it, but if you worry about the contents in shoe care products, you could try glenjay's stuff: http://www.styleforum.net/t/336296/all-natural-non-toxic-shoe-polish
     
  17. Munky

    Munky Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, SHS, I did look at Glenjays products but, unfortunately, he can't ship to the UK.
     
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    Actually, I can ship to the UK, it is just expensive.
     
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    Recently someone was trying to bring their tassel loafers back into condition, and I offered some basic advice. However, I just recently came across a thing called the Tassel Mate (http://www.tasselmate.com/). It looks pretty interesting, so I thought I would share it here.

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    I'm going to get a set and try it out.
     
  20. Munky

    Munky Well-Known Member

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    Sorry Glenjay, I thought your site said that the cost of shipping your products outside the US was prohibitive. Having another look, I realise that you said you could but that it would be expensive.

    Many thanks and I will look into this.
     
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