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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. grendel

    grendel Well-Known Member

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    What's your budget? This is a pretty good high-end starter kit if you want to start with the good stuff... $195

    http://hangerproject.com/closet/shoe-care/saphir-shoeshine-starter-kit.html#.USZOE1rF3-I
     
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    Wholecut Berluti Club:

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  3. glenjay

    glenjay Well-Known Member

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    This thread has a great deal of good information on shoe care and shoe care products. I would also recommend my blog (sorry for the self promotion) which has a section dedicated to shoe care.
     
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    donjuan17 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see these in action.
    Post pics of you rocking these in the Show Off Your Sock And Pant Combo thread
     
  5. grendel

    grendel Well-Known Member

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    These are works of art. Beautiful.
     
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    donjuan17 Well-Known Member

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    Is this product safe to use on my AE walnut Strands? I'm a bit of a n00b so blahh
    It's what my local cobbler carries.
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    I got this and a neutral shoe wax from kiwi.
     
  7. glenjay

    glenjay Well-Known Member

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    I have not used this product, but I would be concerned that it contains silicone. It states that it is a water repellent, produces a shine, and contains no waxes. Unlike wax that allows moisture to pass to some degree, silicone does not. Leather allows some moisture/perspiration to pass through to the surface for evaporation. The thin layers of shoe polish wax impede this to some degree, but also allow some moisture to pass through, which is why shoe polish does not make your shoes water proof. However, silicone is used in water repellent products because it is very good at sealing out (or in) moisture. I don't know for sure if this product contains silicone, I'm just saying that if it does I would probably avoid using it.
     
  8. stevent

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    What is the best suede waterproofer? Ideally something that doesn't change suede color? Just got the Cleverley by C&J aubergine double monks and want to keep color spot on
     
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    Pics or no you didn't :D
     
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    stevent Well-Known Member

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    haha about to go to bed, been wanting a pair forever and couldn't resist after picked up the russian reindeer saddle too. Almost bought the belt as well but caught myself
     
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    Reindeer saddle you say!?! Now I'm interested! Not into the monks myself just the aubergine suede! Good willpower BTW!
     
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    stevent Well-Known Member

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    Here's the saddle in a quick iphone shot:
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    But back on topic, good suede waterproofer?
     
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  14. jasonmx3

    jasonmx3 Well-Known Member

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    I have the exact same pair of To Boot NY oxfords as in the link. The box says that the color is Berry Tan; however, the shoe color changes from light (on top) to dark brown (on the sides and front). Some have described it as "duo-tone".

    What color shoe polish/wax should I use? The shoe has some scuffs that I would like to cover up. Thanks!

    http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/to-boot-new-york-oxford/3132833

    Edit -- Attaching picture of the actual shoe:

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  15. joiji

    joiji Well-Known Member

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    I believe Saphir make something in an aresol for this purpose, invulner?
     
  16. NOBD

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    Yes, Invulner and Rénovateur.
     
  17. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

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    Good looking shoes. Have you given any children nightmares yet by squatting down and telling them that your shoes are made from the skin of a dead reindeer? [​IMG]
     
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    Sandpapering project? Please tell more.

    Okay, I'm going to use cotton (ear) buds, as the bulbous Saphir dye applicator looks a little imprecise. Yep, decided to go the liquid route. Won't bother with masking tape, as I can't imagine myself slipping.

    People ask - well they don't really - why we do this ourselves. I took this pair of shoes to a highly recommended cobbler. He lathered on the edge protector. Was poorly applied, with one spot that won't come out (light tan shoe). I can do a better job myself.

    Lear
     
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    Nice. :nodding:

    Glenjay, thanks for the advanced preview earlier this year.

    Lear
     
  20. Lear

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    First time experiences with Saphir Renomat

    This is not a tutorial. There are many experts here, who know exactly what they're doing. Seek out their posts for further information. These are simply my experiences.

    Edit: All these shoes had about five years worth of various product layers. Even then, seams and joins weren't gunked up. I'm always careful about that. I build up all my colour finishes with many ultra thin layers. Obviously, I like that little bit extra on the toecaps :) . This wasn't about a heavy build-up dulling the finish, cracking or clogging the seams. However, winter salt and slush had marred the finish on a few pairs of shoes: a slight flaking on some, with white deposits on others. Don't think you can create high quality work over a sub-standard base.You can't put polish over salt stains. They'll simply grin through, all wasting your time and polish. You can however use vinegar or Saphir Hiver-Winter. Other (normal) folk can happily continue over any surface they like, but they ain't SF readers.

    What I've discovered is:

    1.) The white salt deposits won't cover or go away without proper treatment. Even after using Renomat, there appears to be something still there (although his could be my imagination). Luckily, I also bought some Saphire Hiver-Winter. I'll give this a go next. Belt & braces.

    2.) The bottle of Saphir Renomat is a tiny thin glass bottle. It wants to tip over all by itself. Make sure you take precautions.

    3.) I'm embarrassed to say that I used a complete bottle of Renomat on just thee pairs of shoes. I didn't feel as if I was wasting the stuff either. Others seem to use considerably less.

    4.) Upon application, you first feel as if the cloth is turning black, but the layers of thickness are still there (on the multi-layered mirrored toes). Be patient. I used an old handkerchief to rub with moderate force.

    5.) Later on I actually used a well worn green kitchen scourer. I'm not recommending that you do this. I won't know if it's made the leather more sensitive to raising when wet. I'll get back to you on that. It did speed up the process though.

    6.) Black polish removes with some thickness onto the hanky. Very light colours less so, to the point that I was wondering if it was working. It does.

    7.) The smell is pretty strong, but not overpowering. An open window and it soon dissipates.

    8.) I had the heels replaced before stripping, as I didn't want the cobbler to muck up a perfect base. However, I forgot that he'd automatically do the edges, which I've now mucked up with the Renomat. No problem for me, as I have the Saphir dye for just that purpose. If you don't have edge dressing, you might want to consider this.

    9.) I'm left with some beautifully clean shoes. Better than I'd expected. I probably spent about 90 minutes on each pair. This is as far as I'm prepared to go with shoes. No dying of leather for me.

    10.) I was worried the factory finish would be damaged. Not so for me. I don't know if poor quality leather is more susceptible to colour loss.

    11.) Last step will be to purchase a sheet of mid 100's + mid 200's sandpaper. I'll sand the sole edges smooth before applying the dye in very thin layers.

    13.) Wear latex gloves. I found the whole process to be relatively safe. Not half as messy as I was expecting.

    No pics I'm afraid.

    To be continued...

    Lear
     
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