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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. adsmith4

    adsmith4 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone here own anything on the Cape Cod Collection from Alden? I'm looking for something to replace my drivers mocs. I like the Camp Moc a lot. Being in Alabama it's quite warm so I need something to wear with shorts, khaki's or jeans.
     
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    Hi all, I could use some feedback on the the issue pictured below. These are Indy boots that I had re-soled with J. Rendenbach soles about a year ago. The shop that did the work has done good work for me in the past on several other pairs.

    On this pair, I noticed the stitching sorta "running off the edge" and generally looking a little sloppy near the heel as pictured below. Is this normal for a re-sole on a 3/4 welt?

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    I didn't think too much of it at the time of the repair, figuring that it was only a small cosmetic issue and that nobody would notice but me. Unfortunately, on the right shoe, the stitching has come undone and the sole/heel have started to separate from the upper:

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    Note the nails visible in the gap:

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    Would you all consider this normal wear-and-tear, or would you consider the original work to be deficient? I'm trying to decide whether or not to have the original cobbler re-do the sole, or take it to someone new.



    Thanks a lot.
     
  3. smmrfld

    smmrfld Well-Known Member

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    This is incorrect. I have Alden shell belts in black, cigar, and #8, and all are the same finish as the corresponding shoes.
     
  4. breck81

    breck81 Well-Known Member

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    Can't seem to get enough of these Cigar Indy's. Light seemed good so I snapped a quick pic after a trip to the grocery store.
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  5. Buckeye Nation

    Buckeye Nation Well-Known Member

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    I'm not certain what Alden is doing, but we know they do refinish shell - I'd love to know though.

    What I know for a fact is shell from Horween comes with a finish applied. I know this finish is indistinguishable from the finish on my Aldens - on the original shell you can see where the finish is not applied and the shell is matte along the edges.

    At 0:08 in that video you can see the shine on the #8 shell - when the guy is "burnishing" the shells boots in that video, the shells at matte, very dull. I don't know how the shells became matte, or what was done to them - I'd really like to though.

    Interesting what you did with your testing - there is one other guy here who did a full strip on a set of boots. What I recall, that is very different than your photos, is when he stripped his, he took the finish completely off. There was (as I recall) no more shine left on them - they looked like the boots in the video.

    iirc, his only complaint was how even he applied the Angelus, but it looked pretty well done when he was finished.

    Cheers,
    BN
     
  6. RevisIsland

    RevisIsland Well-Known Member

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    Might be an issue of old stock vs new stock. I have an old Alden Belt (8+ years) and I don't think it has the finish applied. There is a clear difference in finish vs my belt that is aprx 3 years old.
     
  7. mdubs

    mdubs Well-Known Member

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    Sir, the Cape Cod collection is made by a different factory located in Maine. They are made using a Moccasin construction methodology versus the Goodyear Welt construction that is practiced at the Middleborough facility. They are great shoes and are designed to last and as far as I know, they can be resoled. I have one pair from the Cape Cod collection, the Black Calf Horsebit Loafer and it is a great shoe. If you need to replace your driving mocs and you like the Camp Moc a lot, then I see no reason not to jump on it. With all of that said, myself, I personally would go for an Alden mainline LHS, but that is just my personal preference. Looking at the Camp Moc, I would say you are looking very a very casual shoe and the Camp Moc will probably fill that void better than a LHS can. Frankly, it is hard to go wrong either way.

    -Mike
     
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  8. mdubs

    mdubs Well-Known Member

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    The Alden belt situation is complicated. They have gone through a number of different manufacturers over the past several years and thus all Alden belts are not the same, note even a little bit. I do not believe, although I could be wrong, that Alden has made belts in their main factory any time recently. I have always been told that they are not putting the same finish on their belts and shoes, although certain belts do come much closer.

    -Mike
     
  9. Burzan

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    I find it all so interesting and I know the member you are talking about and what he did on his pair. Using renomat to strip the boots first, I was inspired by his posts to experiment with my Leeds.

    I would actually like to sun fade them a little more and then possibly speak with a local leather supplier about possible dyes for cordovan. I am curious to see how well dying some shell would do, I assume quite blotchy but that may actually give a nice museum calf type look. I would love to try it out at some point. Though this is the messiest and somehow kind of ugly and rushed polish job, this guy uses a dye before he polishes the cordovan. How he doesn't get dye or polish all over this guys socks is beyond me haha.


    Says in the link he uses Fiebings Cordovan Dye, though not specifically for cordovan is actually just cordovan (burgundy) colored. I would be curious to see how well the Fiebings dye actually penetrates the shell cordovan. Not well I am guessing and the supplier states their products are not for touch ups or re-dying and for use on natural veg tanned leather to dye it.

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  10. adsmith4

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    Thanks mdubs. I'm definitely looking for something a little more casual. I've just made the move from AE to Alden so I'm starting from the bottom. Just grabbed some 405's last month, probably going to go ahead and jump on the camp moc's in the next week or so and I've already got something in mind for May.
     
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  11. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Well-Known Member

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    If you had to sell one out of this bunch, which would it be

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    Alcibiades Well-Known Member

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    Also, is anyone having issues posting photos using the iPhone 6+? My photos appear grainy now until you click on them...
     
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  13. Burzan

    Burzan Well-Known Member

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    Probably the shortwing
     
  14. Steel28

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    I'm with Burzan. As soon as I looked at the pic I knew I would pick SW.
     
  15. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Well-Known Member

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    The cordovan SW or suede SW? Cordovan is RL
     
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    Steel28 Well-Known Member

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    cordovan
     
  17. Shawnc

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    I am far from a cobbler (though my wife disputes that) but I have been dyeing my own shoes for a few years. The answer to the question of dyeing shell is nuanced. First, I don't know what vegetable dye even is and I have not been able to find any. My dye of choice has always been fieblings. Unless you're doing touch-ups, you always start by stripping as much gunk off as possible. Renomat is one of a few products that will work for this. Going from any color to black is quite easy and yields the most consistent results. Over the course of a day or two, I typically add 3-4 coats of dye. Once dry, I'll add some cordovan polish or paste, and they look fine and display the typical characteristics of shell. The only downside is that you will see some residue on your rag for a few months when cleaning. It is really minor and does not affect the look of the shoe at all. I had a pair of used #8 Fullstraps that I dyed black and they look great. The only way you can tell they were dyed is from the numbering inside the shoe. Changing to any color other than black is tricky and the results are hit and miss. Touch ups are not too difficult and I follow the same process I describe above. The one thing you want to be careful about is if you use fieblings, the cordovan dye is really dark. Almost indistinguishable from black. It is better to use their oxblood color and add a few drops of cordovan. It is the closest I've been able to get to 8. I have touched up a few Aldens this way, and again, only the most discernible shell lover would ever be able to tell. It was actually my cobbler who got me started dyeing and would give me tips. He dyed a few pair for me (pre-alden days) and we just started talking. Turns out that while he likes money, dyeing shoes is not something he particularly likes to do.
     
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  18. emidyl

    emidyl Well-Known Member

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    umm yeah send them back to get redone
     
  19. rosslovethreads

    rosslovethreads Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, any of the wings. You have a suede and shell in both light and darker brown. I feel like you wouldn't be missing anything if you let them go. Also, when posting from mobile format you can adjust the size your picture's thumbnail appears.

    When you insert the picture the it will appear as this "width/400/height/800" you can increase the dimensions. I typically double them. So you would change it to "width/800/height/1600"
     
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  20. mavrick465

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    I took the advice of a couple members on here and ended up picking up a pair of Snuff LHS from TSM and I had a quick sizing question if someone wouldn't mind giving some sizing advice. How snug is the loafer supposed to be, and will it stretch out a bit over time? The heel fits great but it is just a little snug in the toebox and I am wondering if I should size up a 1/2 size.. Walking around the house it isn't uncomfortable or hurting me but it does feel a bit tight, is that normal? I am considering ordering a half size bigger and just double checking, would that be worth the time to do or is this pretty typical and will feel normal over time? Thanks for the help!
     
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