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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. rydenfan

    rydenfan Well-Known Member

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    really interesting. Thanks for sharing. I wonder why all the shell range has gotten darker over the last few batches? Cigar is now dark enough that I don't know why it wouldn't be as readily available as #8.
    I tried on a pair of cigar chukkas 2 years ago at Alden NYC that could have almost passed for a green cordovan there was so much olive undertone. Still probably the best looking shells I have seen in person but unfortunately they were too big for me.

    Congrats again and they should age incredibly well.
     
  2. tifosi

    tifosi Well-Known Member

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    I agree on all points, Ryden. Evidenced further by the Cigar LWB posted by ElArgentino a couple pages back. They almost look like my Whiskey LWB.

    Seems like everything is getting darker. Maybe so they can use a wider range of qualities of shell?
     
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  3. Papa Doble

    Papa Doble Well-Known Member

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    I hope that whatever cigar pair I eventually get -- thinking chukka or LWB -- is as dark as this pair, both because I like it, and because I got a pair (PTB) of the latest batch of dark ravello, and would like it to be distinct.
     
  4. BootSpell

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    Question --- I just ordered some boots from Leffot that have "flex" soles. All my boots thus far are double oak leather or double waterloc leather soles. Is a flex sole (or I've seen it called flex welt, same thing?) simply a single waterloc sole?
     
  5. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Well-Known Member

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    To me color 8 and cigar are just different colors. I have seen both light and dark color 8 recently and the same with cigar (my recent cigar captoes are quite light). Color 8 is burgundy / purple and cigar is chocolate brown / olive...

    Ravello has appeared darker recently and that is good IMO. I've seen some orange ravello that looked strange. Whiskey seems pretty consistent to me
     
  6. tifosi

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    I think they may be one in the same. I love my PTB on the flex sole.
     
  7. Nakedsnake

    Nakedsnake Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the insight guys. Im building up my funds, and my next shoe should be the Alden Jcrew Cap toe boot. I'm a 12D in the dalton (a touch snug) so 11.5D should be great.

    Thanks again
     
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    Yup, the flex sole is a single water lock sole.

    -Mike
     
  9. coinopcollector

    coinopcollector Well-Known Member

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    This may be heresy to say on this forum but this has been on my mind for some time and I wanted to get it out there and see what others think. It seems to me that today's Alden Shell, from color 8 on down is much different than it had been in the past. I'm not just referring to the shading variations. By this I mean that in the past you had the shell/leather that was stained and you could sense or see the essence and actual character of the leather underneath the stain, including subtle hues, highlights and differences. Now, at least as it relates to color 8 and recent cigar that I have seen, it almost appears as if the color or die has been thickly painted on to the shoe. It looks thick and you can't sense any of the subtleties/shading of the actual shell underneath. The best way that I could describe it is that the stain/color is almost a hard and thick coating.
    I also have AE and C &J Shell Cordovan shoes and I don't think it is the same with their shell. I know many here are of the opinion that nobody finishes shell like Alden, but I simply don't agree. While I do prefer many of Alden styles, especially over AE (I really dislike the profile of the Macneil LW B), I do not agree that Alden's shell finishing is superior. What do others think?
     
  10. tifosi

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    I have only been into Alden shell for a short time, but every Alden shell I have handled is far superior to any AE shell I have handled.
     
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    Tif & BKotsko : great looking PTBs. Congrats!
     
  12. tifosi

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    Based on pics I have seen from members like Mac and MrDV, etc. I do agree with this.
     
  13. dslonghorn4

    dslonghorn4 Well-Known Member

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    I know this is blasphemy but I like your Leeds better than this batch of Cigars.
     
  14. dslonghorn4

    dslonghorn4 Well-Known Member

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    Naked and Famous, Left Hand Twill, Slim Guy.
     
  15. tifosi

    tifosi Well-Known Member

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    Not blasphemy. Everyone is entitled to their opinions!
     
  16. budapest12

    budapest12 Well-Known Member

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    ^ Even if those opinions just happen to be blasphemous.
     
  17. El Argentino

    El Argentino Well-Known Member

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    I respect the opinion, Coin and Tifosi.

    I think though that the comparison of a brand new shell shoe, 1-2 wears out of the box against Mac's Cigar shortwings, or ravello LHS isn't the best comparison though - a lot of that subtle "shading, stain, and character" comes as a result of wearing the shoe and brushing it up for years on end. I think it's the patina you're seeing that deepens the color, makes the shell seem more "transparent" than when they leave the factory freshly done up.
     
  18. tifosi

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    This is true, EA. My whiskey LWB look different then when I first bought them and they have only been worn 15-20 times. I can't wait for these cigars to patina!
     
  19. kwhitelaw

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    Concerning ravelllo, I'll admit I'm more a fan of the last batch. the jcrew LWB I had to send back were the perfect shade. much preferred over the shade of LWB and PTB I recently acquired (not a big enough concern to keep from wearing though of course)

    jcrew

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    LWB and PTB from DC and NYC

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    Thanks guys. I thought as much.
     
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