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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. mr chorizo

    mr chorizo Well-Known Member

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    must be the maiden voyage....enjoy wearing Uncle!
     
  2. LeJouvre

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    No, you misunderstand and misrepresent what I said. I want stock standard Alden items in my size, to replace precisely what I already own. What I own is worn out and ready for replacement.

    That the Alden cordovan range is chronically limited to products which are never available, even from retailers who cannot place orders for future delivery, is at the fulcrum of the complaint. That other suppliers can both supply a cordovan range AND offer MTO variations reduces Alden's possible list of explanations.

    The argument that these leathers are in short supply is well known, but the argument is partially flawed because the other manufacturers do not experience the same problems as acutely as Alden allegedly does.

    AE for example, a producer of greater quantity, manages to deliver fairly quickly, although they do not do Ravello, but, EG, G&G, Vass et al, all foreign producers, they experience far less of these problems, either that or they manage the problems a whole lot better.

    The other suppliers have waiting lists as well, sure, and exotic colored cordovan leather can be a slightly longer wait, but these issues are no less onerous or burdensome than any other premium range of their products and the cordovan products in any exotic color can be delivered by the other suppliers within fairly reasonable lead times.

    I have, for example, an order for a whiskey Sandringham and a Cognac Brummel from EG. Another retailer confirmed an order for a pair of boots in an exotic colored cordovan from G&G. Both orders will be delivered in very reasonable lead times.

    +1 absolutely, Tom is way out there, except that this is no rant, unless you view it from the perspective of a supplier and not a consumer.

    You got it Tom,

    not only will I pay a deposit, I will pay full retail if the order is accepted. Previous inquiries have been met with an absolute decline, which is not a problem in itself, it just makes the marketing of these unobtainable items by the producer so strange.

    I will PM you to discuss. I am after stock standard products, only in one of the exotic cordovans. Waiting is not the problem, availability and opportunity to be advised when stocks do become available is the issue. Perhaps I will simply get you to order from one of your other suppliers anyway, that way I could dispense with all this waiting for retirement age before delivery stuff.

    Customers who are unwilling to wait will walk into an Alden retailer and buy one of these products straight off the shelf if they are lucky enough to make their purchase at the right time. But are they real Alden shoe enthusiasts? Like those clients who do spend the time and the effort to source these products but keep coming up empty handed.
     
  3. PhiPsi32

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    Don't forget that there are sources for shell cordovan other than Horween. Allen Edmonds can custom make a pair of shoes in a few weeks as long as they have the leather. Lead times can grow considerably longer if they are waiting for stock. I ordered a Natty CXL belt from Hellbrand Leatherworks about three or four weeks ago, and Horween still doesn't have the hides available. Once they come in, Ed can deliver the product within a few days. This aspect of it can't be controlled.

    And don't forget, if your Aldens are worn out, they may be eligible for resoling/refinishing. It's cheaper and can be completed in a few weeks. That's one of the reasons I went with Alden.
     
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    I didn't realize horween shell was so scarce. Maybe this means I should get another pair of aldens so I'm not wearing my whiskey indys every day.
     
  5. AldenLuver

    AldenLuver Well-Known Member

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    Quick question, I have a pair of J Crew Tobacco (waxed calf) LWB. Would a ravello LWB purchase be redundant, and not worth it?
     
  6. El Argentino

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    This is exactly what they want you to think... :devil: - it's so scarce I need MOAR!!!

    I'm guilty as well though.
     
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    Haha it's so true. I just feel like I should savor them instead of wearing them every single day like a pair of beaters. But now that I've worn shell cordovan, I don't even want regular leather boots, I want another pair of shell boots!
     
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    Shell is definitely different from calf in color and durability. Personally I think it is worth it but again Ravello LWB are not cheap...
     
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    I'm still contemplating a shell purchase. Alden of DC had a very nice cigar shell chukka. Lately, I've been favoring CXL and suede. No regrets.
     
  10. Steel28

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    Looking for some help gents,

    I'd like to get J Gilbert shell cap toe boots in Plaza last but not sure how Plaza fits.

    I've measured size 9US on the brannock and my width is D+

    I went to BB and tried their cordovan captoe boots in both, 9US and 8.5US. So the verdict was that 8.5 fitted more than perfect and 9US was quite swimmable:D

    What last was this BB boot? Also how different in fit this pictured last would be from Plaza cap toe sold at J.Gilbert with commnado sole?


    8.5US Alden for BB

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    thanks in advance
     
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    A couple of take aways from all this:

    First, nothing was too much trouble for Jordan. Nothing, apparently, but sufficient profits to stay in business?

    Second, EG also fits better, wears better, ages better, lasts longer, polishes up better and looks much better than Alden. Sounds like you found your brand dude.

    Lastly, that Tom actually responded to this ______ is yet another example of what a stand-up guy and all-around great retailer he is.
     
  12. iDoc

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    Debating between cigar and ravello shell cordovan LHS. Plan to wear casually with jeans and khakis. Which color is more versatile?
     
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    They are both pretty damn versatile. I prefer Ravello but it's basically preference. Dark shell vs light(er) shell.
     
  14. mr chorizo

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    if you're willing to shell out (no pun intended) for cordovan, i'd get the ravellos and sell the Jcrew LWB.
     
  15. LeJouvre

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    Thanks for your views - dude - but EG have been around a lot longer than Jordan was, they also bend over backwards to help a client and they're still very much in business, so that theory of yours don't work too well now does it?

    Found my brand? I don't use EGs on factory floors, fishing trips camping, climbing etc etc that spot is filled by Alden.

    Nobody attacked Tom, and nobody questioned his integrity. We have bought enough shoes and other products from LS to know what is or is not possible from LS. All that Tom did was he put his hand up offer some help instead of charging about, like other folks do, criticizing everyone, as if criticism is some sort of substitute for a solution.
     
  16. LeJouvre

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    I am a 10 on the Brannok, so 1 size bigger than you.

    If it helps, the BB #8 cordovan I own is the Peal & Co boot in size 9.5 D and all my Barrie last Aldens are either 9E or 9.5D. If I am going to wear thick socks I normally go for the 9.5D in the Barrie.

    The plaza fits slightly more like the BB Peal and Co boot in your pic. Although I prefer the fit of the plaza last, I buy both BB and the Alden plaza in 1/2 size smaller than my normal US foot size and the Barrie I can go down 1 full size without discomfort.

    Hope that helps
     
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  17. LeJouvre

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    +1000 definitely. The waxed calf are great, but the cordovans are just a completely different shoe.

    Why don't you look at other options, like the cap toe, and you could keep both, just use them for different stuff
     
  18. zippyh

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    You sure those are Aldens?
    The only BB cordovan boots I can recall are Crockett &Jones on the 325 last.
     
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    anyone know if Alden of DC still have the cigar captoe boot in size 8 or 8.5?
     
  20. SuitedDx

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    Calling would probably bring the most accurate answer.
     
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