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The Non GQ/Esquire Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Caustic Man, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    A recent post lamenting the state of GQ and Esquire got me to thinking. If GQ is basically turning into Maxim light and Esquire is not far behind, are there any men's publications out there that fill the void when one is looking for a serious publication devoted to men's style? One that I mentioned was The Rake. It is mature, informative, and covers everything from bespoke tie makers to etiquette and more. Are there any other magazines worth reading out there? I'm going to go ahead and guess that if there are most of it will be international publications. I haven't seen much come out of the U.S.

    Other than styleforum, what are you reading that relates to men's style? Why do you like it? Or on the other hand, why are you sticking with GQ and/or Esquire?
     
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  2. Cant kill da Rooster

    Cant kill da Rooster Well-Known Member

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    There was another thread that discussed this however, I would be curious to know if there are any electronic magazine versions out there? I don't mind the brit Esquire over the American one or GQ but it also seems to be heading the Maxim route. As I prefer using a tablet now (Ipad if you will), are there some electronic magazines available that are worth checking out?

    I don't mind the app called Valet. It does contain some good info but it is not a full magazine.
     
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  3. Frankie22

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    Unfortunately print as an advertising vehicle ain't what it used to be, and these publications are being forced to generate ad dollars in ways outside of simply including the actual print ads. All these must have lists, top 10 features and brand whoring are examples of this. Sadly, the actual content becomes secondary; GQ is basically a brand catalog at this point; their content sucks (aside from some of the editorials, but who really reads GQ for the non fashion articles)?

    SF is one of the best mens fashion resources in the world.
     
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    The Rake is by far the best English-language menswear publication around right now.

    Most of the Japanese menswear magazines are amazing - and utterly obsessive about details. But, unfortunately for most of us, in Japanese.
     
  5. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    Do you know if this is related to the website valetmag.com?
     
  6. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    It has definitely been more interesting than most publications. Just looking through the pictures of what others are doing is inspiring.
     
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    Yes but each picture is still worth a thousand words. ;)
     
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  8. BrizzleCizzle

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    I can't stand reading GQ any more. I was offered a cut rate subscription a few months back and decided to give it a try; it's mostly pages upon pages of ads. In fact, in the most recent publication, they have this new thing called GQ Live, wherein you hover your iPad, iPhone, or Android enabled device over specific pages while using their GQ Live app, and it generates some extensive content not in the mag. Cool, right? Well, kinda, because as it says in the introductory wording: EVERY AD uses GQ Live, try it out! Oh... great... now the 88 pages of ads in your 156 page magazine (that's just the pure ads, not counting the aformentioned obvious lists spewing outrageous implications of what to buy based on... nothing) contain an exponential amount of additional crap content. Tremendous.
     
  9. mekato1

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    Used to have a GQ sub (for a couple of bucks through magazine discount sites) before knowing about SF and men's blog, pinterest boards, etc...Between the ads and shrinking men's style content, I'm glad I never paid full price for it. Now, I think that with forums like SF, blogs, and pinterest boards, you don't need a magazine at all. Grab a few rss feeds and you're set.
     
  10. Cant kill da Rooster

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    I didn't realize it was a site but yeah, that's it.
     
  11. BrizzleCizzle

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    I pinterest often, especially with regards to men's style. I find it pretty relieving, and actually very informative, that so many people have so little else to do with their time other than take pictures of gentlemen walking to work in NYC/Europe. I recognize that's a backhanded compliment, as it is intended to be, but I sincerely do pinterest to see what's going on in the blogosphere.
     
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    Yes, the best ones these days are Leon, Men's Ex and Free & Easy.
     
  13. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    So true. That's why this site is so useful.
     
  14. Caustic Man

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    It would seem to me that someone would come in to fill the void left by the fall of GQ. But as of yet I have seen no U.S. publication do so. Are we really at a point where discussion of style, both classic and trendy, is no longer relevant?
     
  15. BrizzleCizzle

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    In my own, humble, opinion: I believe that the publishers and editors and publication houses have reached the point of profit over product. They, as it has come to be the status quo, now see the dollar signs over the substance of their product. If they can peddle the latest designs, the wake of fashion shows and unreal opinions from dressers/stylists/fashionistas/designers who apply androgyny and Lady Gaga-like attire to what they believe is real life, every day style, and maximize profits, why choose to pay writers to actually write and engage in a debate or otherwise opine in such a fashion that either turns certain readers away (e.g. the one who want "high fashion") or takes away ad space for the luxury brands (some of which who cater to the traditional stylish man, some of which who fuse Nike Air Max soles onto leather wingtips). I believe you've nailed it, and now the majority of men's magazines have turned from being a medium by which knowledge is shared and insiders are able to proliferate the best of their travels and experiences, to now serve as one more, albeit old school and non-digital, way to channel the whims of the fashion world to the masses, season after season. No discussion needed: these are the top selling items and top interest pieces at fashion week, these are the most expensive, so here's our "Top 10 must haves for summer!", go fetch!
     
  16. Caustic Man

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    Are we then seeing a general shift away from print media to a more discussion oriented kind of news and information sharing? Certainly news is still spoon fed by networks and newspapers, but could this be the start of a shift to a more community based sharing of knowledge similar to how this community operates? I don't know is this will definitely apply to more objective things like scientific research or hard news, but when it comes to things like style it seems to be a better selling medium in this day and age. Unfortunately it seems to mean the at least partial demise of the long, well thought out, and researched information article about brands, makers, tailors, etc. On the other hand, I have seem some excellent posts in this community about those very things. Original research and reporting done by members about their favorite makers. Very interesting.
     
  17. Apollotrader

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    I could not agree more with regard to GQ and Esquire. It is especially shitty to view Esquire in its current form, it used to be such a great gentleman's publication. I will try The Rake, I have not seen it before. Besides SF I do find the editorial content on Mr. Porter UK and Mr. Porter US to be quite nice, well thought out and very informative and even entertaining. Curious if other members of SF are looking there also??
     
  18. Caustic Man

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    Never heard of Mr. Porter. Will give it a try.
     
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    I have found Mr. Porter and Fantastic Man to be decent, though the latter is a little out there at times and basically stick with Monocle these days, which is not solely style, sartorially oriented. It's also a little rough that the half decent publications are typically closer to $20 than to $5, which takes them out of that GQ/Esquire price bracket. For those who are Rake readers, where do you source the issues, aside from their site? I have a search for it whenever I hit a shop, but have never come across an issue.

    On a side note, does anyone remember when Vogue came out with a biannual men's issue? The were actually not bad..anyway, good topic OP, thank's for voicing up.
     
  20. acidboy

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    ^ men's vogue used to churn out an issue once every 2 months. think I still have the last issue stowed away. it was definitely veering away from the gq sophomoric crowd, but it was also at times drab and uninteresting imo.
     

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