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The new 007

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Ambulance Chaser, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. mnemonic

    mnemonic Well-Known Member

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    i voted "other", so my specification follows.

    lance henriksen, aka "bishop" from aliens. good with a blade.
     
  2. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for minority actors getting good roles, but I agree. Â Bond is such an iconic figure that he has to look like what he is expected to look like for the audience to buy it. Â Because Bond's race (unlike that of a Zulu chieftain or samurai warrior) is not intrinsic to his character, and he theoretically could be played by a black actor, I think a more apt analogy is a white actor playing Shaft.
     
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    (imageWIS @ 04 Dec. 2004, 4:07) A black Bond just doesn't work. It's not a racial thing...Ian Fleming wrote Bond as a white guy, and thus all the films producers have kept to that premise so why mess with the authors original intentions now? Having a black guy play Bond is like having an Asian play a Zulu chieftain. Or like having a white guy play a samurai warrior...[​IMG] Jon.
    I'm all for minority actors getting good roles, but I agree. Bond is such an iconic figure that he has to look like what he is expected to look like for the audience to buy it. Because Bond's race (unlike that of a Zulu chieftain or samurai warrior) is not intrinsic to his character, and he theoretically could be played by a black actor, I think a more apt analogy is a white actor playing Shaft.
    Well, you understood my point. Jon.
     
  4. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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    I watched it last night and agree.  The movie was like a meal that had potential, but was badly undercooked.  For a much better movie with a similar premise and pacing, see "The Limey."
     
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    I'm surprised there's been no mention of Paul Bettany. I assume he's attractive if not pretty (?--ladies help me out here), and if you're wondering about the rough streak, look no further than Gangster #1. Cool, stylish, and an absolute monster. Tone that down a bit and you've got a pretty great Bond. He also fits the bill as a relative unknown, compared to a couple of the comicbook mentions. There was a mention on AskAndy (just lurking) of Tarantino as director. I saw the Leno when he brought this up--Tarantino propagating/starting a rumor that he would have the job. Wanted to drum up publicity and give the producers no choice. Anyhow, he proposed getting back to the roots and re-doing Casino Royale, which is the first book but never made into a worthwhile movie. QT wants to get away from the big effects of late, relate more of the book's essence. In his own way I'm sure [​IMG] Personally I love the idea. Tom
     
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    Nonk Well-Known Member

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    Is Paul Bettany not a ginge?
     
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    ginge?
     
  8. Nonk

    Nonk Well-Known Member

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    Ginge- afflicted with ginger hair.
     
  9. Fabienne

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    I met Roger Moore a number of times. At a cocktail party in his honor a couple of years ago, he joked about having dentures in front of everybody. I don't know exactly what he did, how he did it, but the ladies were still all in awe. I don't believe he liked me that much. I was impermeable to his charm. [​IMG] He speaks very good French for a Brit. [​IMG]
     
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    uriahheep Well-Known Member

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    Clive Owen or Gerard Butler.
     
  11. James Bond

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    Yep. Tarantino proposed a remake of CR but was turned down.
     
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    I think that Clive Owen's a great actor. The only thing, which he can't help and which can't be held against him, is that he looks like somewhat like George Lazenby.
    I still think that either Clive Owen or Gerard Butler should be the next 007.
     
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    Boooo...
     
  15. spatten

    spatten Well-Known Member

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    It is refreshing to see several advocates of Dalton's Bond on this forum. I was always laughed at for suggesting he might just be the best of the bonds.

    In my mind he brought a sorely needed touch of grit and realsim to the franchise.

    I think Hugh Jackman can do it - his performance as Wolfman(I think that is the character) in XMen was pretty rough. And yet he pulled off a sophisticated peer in Kate and Leopold.
     

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