1. Welcome to the new Styleforum!

    We hope you’re as excited as we are to hang out in the new place. There are more new features that we’ll announce in the near future, but for now we hope you’ll enjoy the new site.

    We are currently fine-tuning the forum for your browsing pleasure, so bear with any lingering dust as we work to make Styleforum even more awesome than it was.

    Oh, and don’t forget to head over to the Styleforum Journal, because we’re giving away two pairs of Carmina shoes to celebrate our move!

    Please address any questions about using the new forum to support@styleforum.net

    Cheers,

    The Styleforum Team

    Dismiss Notice

The NBA Playoffs

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Saucemaster, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. Saucemaster

    Saucemaster Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,678
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Location:
    San Francisco
    I think this is the year Starks carries the Knicks and Ewing finally...wha? What's that you say? Crap, I'm turning the Yanks back on.

    Tom... oh, Tom. The Knicks? At least you're not a Celtics fan.

    And I thought I liked you. I am your sworn enemy, sir. [​IMG]

    Lamo, agreed on Denver's poor performance, but my Laker-bred mind is still having trouble wrapping itself around this one. I don't know what will happen to me if the Clippers advance.

    Congratulations to Washington tonight, but I expect to see LeBron back in top form next game. Should be good.
     
  2. tiger02

    tiger02 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,799
    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Location:
    NYC
    Sauce, you have no idea. You want to talk baseball? Phillies suck. Football? Yeah, I loved watching TO destroy that team. Hockey? Go [​IMG]s

    Philadelphia sports fans are my sworn enemies, so that works out nicely. Unless you're still clinging to the quaint notion of West Coast sports...


    [​IMG]
     
  3. Saucemaster

    Saucemaster Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,678
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Location:
    San Francisco
    Sauce, you have no idea. You want to talk baseball? Phillies suck. Football? Yeah, I loved watching TO destroy that team. Hockey? Go [​IMG]s Philadelphia sports fans are my sworn enemies, so that works out nicely. Unless you're still clinging to the quaint notion of West Coast sports...
    I have to tell you, I could care less about the Phillies. When I was a very young kid my Dad used to take me to Padres games (back when Steve Garvey was playing), and after we moved to LA we used to go see Dodgers games all the time, so both those teams have at least the nostalgia factor. I get annoyed at all the LA fans who suddenly had "always been Angels fans" a few years ago. Bullshit, you were a Dodgers fan, you were just excited that the Angels were good. In SF I used to go to A's games all the time, because they were cheap as hell, but never really became a fan. All in all, I have to say, baseball doesn't really do it for me. I like going to games, which is good, because it's the only professional sport I can really afford to attend, but it rarely really excites me. Basketball we covered. My heart belongs to the Lakers when all's said and done, but as long as AI is on the Sixers, I'm a fan. He's been my favorite player in the league since long before I moved out here. Football, I really went all the way. I admit that. I have become the thing you hate: an Eagles fan. I can't wait until the first game Dallas plays here in Philly next season. November 17 or something, I'm too lazy to look it up. I fully expect TO to be laid out on the ground writhing in pain the first time he tries to get anywhere near the ball. Good times. [​IMG] Hockey? I was born and raised in Southern California. Ice is something that keeps your Coronas cold when you're at the beach. Mullets are a crime against humanity. I just can't get into hockey. Apropos of the thread topic: do you really want to talk West vs. East? What kind of a conference are you playing in when a sub-.500 record will put you in the playoffs?! Please. [​IMG] As for the playoffs: WTF @ SAN ANTONIO. Note to all teams everywhere: if you're fighting San Antonio, you must put them down. Finish the job. Because they will kill you. Horry, Barry, Duncan, doesn't matter who does it, because someone will do it and they will kill you.
     
  4. tiger02

    tiger02 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,799
    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Location:
    NYC
    I really haven't cared at all about the NBA since Starks and Oakley, but the Mavs have been fun lately and Carroll's experiment in Sacramento is cool to watch. What amazes me about A's games is how a lively energetic team can have its soul sucked out by a crappy ballpark. At least hot dogs are two for a buck on Tuesdays [​IMG]

    Are the Nets in the playoffs? Um, go Jersey?
     
  5. Saucemaster

    Saucemaster Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,678
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Location:
    San Francisco
    I really haven't cared at all about the NBA since Starks and Oakley, but the Mavs have been fun lately and Carroll's experiment in Sacramento is cool to watch. What amazes me about A's games is how a lively energetic team can have its soul sucked out by a crappy ballpark. At least hot dogs are two for a buck on Tuesdays [​IMG] Are the Nets in the playoffs? Um, go Jersey?
    The A's ballpark was crappy, but it was also dirt cheap, which is why I ended up going to lots of A's games and a grand total of ONE Giants game (though, man, that park is sweet). The Nets are in the playoff as the #3 seed in the East. They're playing the Pacers right now with home court advantage, and they should advance, but they got a bit of a scare in the first game. Series is tied 1-1 right now and they're heading to Indiana. You should check 'em out (assuming you can, over there)--when Vince Carter, Jason Kidd, and Richard Jefferson are all on fire, they're a sight to see. EDIT: Also, I'm totally calling you Spike from now on, Tom. I'm sorry.
     
  6. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
  7. mrpologuy

    mrpologuy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    790
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Location:
    Hamtramck or Hamtown
    How can Steve Nash be the likely winner for MVP again? It doesn't matter what youy do in Detroit because they won't give it to you if you play here. Pistons are up 2-0 and are playing great. Watch out Miami and Spurs fans!!!![​IMG]
     
  8. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,134
    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2002
    Location:
    Cygnus X-1
    How can Steve Nash be the likely winner for MVP again? It doesn't matter what youy do in Detroit because they won't give it to you if you play here. Pistons are up 2-0 and are playing great. Watch out Miami and Spurs fans!!!![​IMG]

    I think the Pistons are a victim of their own team play; obviously Chauncy Billups deserves mvp consideration, though.

    koji
     
  9. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    How can Steve Nash be the likely winner for MVP again? It doesn't matter what youy do in Detroit because they won't give it to you if you play here. Pistons are up 2-0 and are playing great. Watch out Miami and Spurs fans!!!![​IMG]
    he's white, unassuming and plays a pretty brand of basketball. A safe pick, but the wrong one. I'd put LeBron, Kobe, Dirk or Elton rather than nash. Eat Crotch, Mr. Nash!!! [​IMG]
     
  10. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

    Messages:
    33,255
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2002
    Location:
    Moscow, Idaho
    he's white, unassuming and plays a pretty brand of basketball. A safe pick, but the wrong one. I'd put LeBron, Kobe, Dirk or Elton rather than nash.

    Steve is the leader that Kobe is not, and that LeBron and Elton will be (though neither is yet). Dirk would've been my second pick, but Steve's Canadian. I am confused though. Steve Nash is easily my favorite player in the league, but I've always been a Laker's fan. Now, I can't figure out who to cheer for. It's like "Go Phoenix!!! No! No! No! Go Lakers!"
     
  11. bachbeet

    bachbeet Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,212
    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    Location:
    San Diego
    A few comments:

    Patrick, I agree that the Showtime era was vastly superior. In fact, pretty much any era prior to around 1990 was better. Much faster paced and higher scoring. Less like football and more like what Naismith invented.

    I like Bill Walton. And, I DO think that if his UCLA team had been playing in the NCAA this year, they would definitely have won. Of course, that assumes they were all at the same level they were when they were playing at UCLA. Wooden is the best coach at any level ever.

    And, the Lakers really clamped down on the Suns last night. Their defense vastly improved. One very "right on" comment was made by one of the announcers that the Lakers were not fouling nearly as much as in the first game. They were using their feet to move into better position. Kwame is really developing a lot more under PJ. PJ's advice is finally sinking in. I'm glad for the kid.
     
  12. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    Steve is the leader that Kobe is not, and that LeBron and Elton will be (though neither is yet). Dirk would've been my second pick, but Steve's Canadian. I am confused though. Steve Nash is easily my favorite player in the league, but I've always been a Laker's fan. Now, I can't figure out who to cheer for. It's like "Go Phoenix!!! No! No! No! Go Lakers!"

    a leader whose defense is atrocious. Phoenix's uptempo style pretty much masked it during the regular season but against a good team with a disciplined defense, they'll get hammered. Nash's idea of playing defense is flopping all over the place. He's the most overrated player on the most overrated team, with or without Amare. There's a reason why Dallas is a far better team without Nash, who was basically the same player he is now.
     
  13. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

    Messages:
    33,255
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2002
    Location:
    Moscow, Idaho
    a leader whose defense is atrocious. Phoenix's uptempo style pretty much masked it during the regular season but against a good team with a disciplined defense, they'll get hammered. Nash's idea of playing defense is flopping all over the place. He's the most overrated player on the most overrated team, with or without Amare. There's a reason why Dallas is a far better team without Nash, who was basically the same player he is now.

    But the up tempo pace is what Steve brings to the table. I always liked the old Dallas offense. People called it a "running" offense, but really what it was was Steve running around like a crazy man until he found Dirk miraculously open. And on the occasional game the old Dallas team played defense, it was the same frenetic type of thing. Steve brings energy to a team like no one else can. As for flopping, the dude is AI's size. Not much mure than 6' and about 170 lbs. That's not flopping when a 250 lb, 6'8" dude collides with you. That's plain old falling down. Don't be a hater.
     
  14. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    But the up tempo pace is what Steve brings to the table. I always liked the old Dallas offense. People called it a "running" offense, but really what it was was Steve running around like a crazy man until he found Dirk miraculously open. And on the occasional game the old Dallas team played defense, it was the same frenetic type of thing. Steve brings energy to a team like no one else can. As for flopping, the dude is AI's size. Not much mure than 6' and about 170 lbs. That's not flopping when a 250 lb, 6'8" dude collides with you. That's plain old falling down. Don't be a hater.

    he does flop excessively. so does the rest of the suns team, including raja, boris, etc. No team flopped more during the regular season than the suns did. Nash is starting to look more like Manu everyday. i agree he brings energy, and he's a great player. But i simply cannot believe that he's getting a second MVP. For crying out loud, Shaq only has one. Just goes to show you how stupid the voters are.
     
  15. visionology

    visionology Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,698
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Location:
    CT
    When you can post a record at the top of the league without your highest scoring player and best rebounder, when you can make the players around you who have had very little success before Phoenix better, and at the same time post career numbers that's good enough for me.

    I think the only other person close is perhaps Lebron in terms of meaning to a team. Without Lebron the cavs are under .500. However Lebron, while he is a good passer, doesn't make the players around him better, he is just a one man wrecking crew. Kobe is the same way, except Kobe is just an excellent player, unlike Lebron him playing good doesn't necessarily mean his team will win.

    As far as flopping, refs have made flopping a part of the game. A LOT of people do it so to single out Nash is absurd. It is just like standing there when you take the charge and falling down to make it obvious that there is a charge rather than trying to stay up. If the ref doesn't see it, it doesn't get called so you see players make the calls as obvious as possible. I hate flopping but its been around for a while.
     
  16. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    When you can post a record at the top of the league without your highest scoring player and best rebounder, when you can make the players around you who have had very little success before Phoenix better, and at the same time post career numbers that's good enough for me.

    I think the only other person close is perhaps Lebron in terms of meaning to a team. Without Lebron the cavs are under .500. However Lebron, while he is a good passer, doesn't make the players around him better, he is just a one man wrecking crew. Kobe is the same way, except Kobe is just an excellent player, unlike Lebron him playing good doesn't necessarily mean his team will win.

    As far as flopping, refs have made flopping a part of the game. A LOT of people do it so to single out Nash is absurd. It is just like standing there when you take the charge and falling down to make it obvious that there is a charge rather than trying to stay up. If the ref doesn't see it, it doesn't get called so you see players make the calls as obvious as possible. I hate flopping but its been around for a while.



    singling out nash? are you kidding? i don't have the stats in front of me but nash is one of the worst floppers out there. a lot of people do it but most of them play a semblance of d. Nash hops around and is almost always out of position. He plays NO d. and just to be correct, amare's not the sun's leading rebounder, not by a long shot. as said before, Suns are a highly overrated team built for the regular season and Nash just might be the worst MVP winner, not to mention repeat recipient, in the history of the NBA.
     
  17. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    I think the only other person close is perhaps Lebron in terms of meaning to a team. Without Lebron the cavs are under .500. However Lebron, while he is a good passer, doesn't make the players around him better, he is just a one man wrecking crew. Kobe is the same way, except Kobe is just an excellent player, unlike Lebron him playing good doesn't necessarily mean his team will win.

    you do realize that most teams in the west would get knocked up quite a few spots in the standings if they played in the east.
     
  18. Steve B.

    Steve B. Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,272
    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2002
    Location:
    San Antonio
    Try being a Lakers fan in San Antonio...
     
  19. visionology

    visionology Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,698
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Location:
    CT
    I think your hatred of the Suns and Nash or some personal vendetta against them is blinding your judgement of their position. If they were as bad as you say without one of their top 2 players and with injuries throughout the season they wouldn't be a top seed in the playoffs.

    The west isn't as dominate as it used to be. The timberwolves are horrendous now, the Lakers mediocre, and many of the perennial powers like the Kings done while in the East the Heat, Pistons, Nets and others have risen. I think it was more even this year than it has been in years.
     
  20. Lamo

    Lamo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2006
    I think your hatred of the Suns and Nash or some personal vendetta against them is blinding your judgement of their position. If they were as bad as you say without one of their top 2 players and with injuries throughout the season they wouldn't be a top seed in the playoffs. The west isn't as dominate as it used to be. The timberwolves are horrendous now, the Lakers mediocre, and many of the perennial powers like the Kings done while in the East the Heat, Pistons, Nets and others have risen. I think it was more even this year than it has been in years.
    edit: i apologize, i did go overboard with that post. what can i say? i'm a rabid fan...
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by