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The Hong Kong Tailors Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Silk, Apr 6, 2007.

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  1. manlai

    manlai Member

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    I was taking a picture to show some friends and I thought I would share it here. Some of my shirt haul from Collar Seasons. I initially only bought a couple but I found that I was babying them and never wearing them, so I ended up ordering more and now I wear them all the time. It's so liberating! I have a few more fashion-y casual ones too that I regularly wear with jeans and no tie for going out with friends and such.

    http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/manlai/srt.jpg

    http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/manlai/20131218_123132.jpg
     
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  2. vanarmi

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    Hello.

    I can also vouch for Carol @ Collar Seasons.

    I was referred to her store from a mate who lived and worked in HK for 10 years or so and was pleased by the laid-back, respectable but passionate set up they had going.
    Carol is clearly passionate about shirts and fitted me twice to ensure everything was snug.
    Her English was of a fantastic HK standard and she took me through all the style options for the tailoring of the shirt.
    I can't remember off hand how much I paid but my mate said while their prices are competitive and may not be the cheapest, its guaranteed to be the perfect fit using good workmanship and materials - and I agree with him!

    Actually, I'm just about to place another international order for a few other shirts from Australia now! Once they have your measurements they post out no problem!

    Hope that helps!
     
  3. Wongtouski

    Wongtouski Well-Known Member

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    Can you give some details on pricing and location of the store? I was about to make shirts !
     
  4. vanarmi

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    Head to Moody Square - its on the ground level from memory to the left as you walk in. I think it was around AUD$30-$40 for a shirt - but will have to check the receipt - Cheap by global standards nonetheless! Best thing is that once they have your measurements you just call them up and they will post another out to you perfectly fitted and cheaper that anything you can buy off the shelf here in AUS that's worth getting out of bed for.

    A lot of corporate management employees get their shirts done there.... its not for the plebs looking for 1 shirt and a suit to pretend they are awesome for a one time event but for the sophisticated corporate man looking to make a tailored statement.

    http://www.yp.com.hk/27230620/369749/en/

    https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...ata=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x340b3a0b25f6bedf
     
  5. manlai

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    I dug up the business card. It's in the Peninsula Centre unit G68. When I bought my shirts, it was ~$1200HK for a 3 shirt order. It's more per shirt if you get less than 3 at a time. They can be different patterns of course. She talked about having to raise prices a bit after Chinese New Year due to higher costs but it's likely to still be in that range. Considering RTW shirts at the mall here in the US can easily cost $100US (~$770HK), it's a fantastic deal for me. I doubt they're the cheapest around but they don't deal with low end fabrics so you don't have to worry about variance in quality from shirt to shirt. I got a suit (always with 2 pairs of pants) too and very happy with all of it.
     
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  6. Classic Car

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    First of all, their shirt is quite good finish, can you show us some picture of the fitting? Fitting is the most important for bespoke.

    During my last visit, I took a look of their suits which were waiting for customers to pick up. Not a good impression at all, the lady there knows almost nothing about suits. She just has some fabric sample books and sub contract to a workshop tailor. Price for suit are O.K.

    Since she is specialize in shirts but not suits, it is hard to recommend people to go there for suits.
     
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    Quote:Snaps showing the stitching and pattern matching would be most apprecicated. Thanks
     
  8. manlai

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    I'm not sure what you're asking me. I assume you want me to describe my fitting?

    The first time in we talk about the usual fabric, pattern, collar/cuff accents, features, etc. As I mentioned, I was getting a suit and shirts. She scheduled a fitting with me according to how long I was going to be in HK so that I could have my order before I left. She fitted me for both the shirt and the suits. She had a fitting shirt (scrap shirt or sample shirt?), a thin shirt with the needles and the markings on it along with the fitting sample suit jacket and pants. I put on the shirt and the pants first and she had me moving around to test the fit while giving her feedback. She would make some markings or pin in places and have me look and move again for more feedback. I put the jacket on and she did the same thing.

    The suit fitting was a similar experience as any other bespoke suit fitting I've had. I put the fitting suit on, move around, try to duplicate my typical movements, ask for opinions, tell them what I like/don't like, and they mark or pin adjustments. The shirt fitting was new to me because I'd never had shirts made before using Collar Seasons and some of my friends commented that it was unusual that a tailor makes a fitting shirt for a shirt fitting. Some friends who use other shops just go by the measurements and it goes fine for them. I found that the biggest asset to actually having a shirt fitting is making those little adjustments that a measurement doesn't cover. For example, I liked my sleeves a tiny bit longer (I don't like my cuffs riding up my wrists as much), the torso a bit looser, but the biceps a little tighter. The fitting gave me a chance to figure out some of my preferences that differed from just my measurements.

    I've gotten to know Carol ever since I first met her and I found her very knowledgeable. I asked her a ton of questions the first time out (and pretty much anytime after) and she's always quick with a satisfactory answer. She has an assistant (long straight hair, no glasses) which she shares with the shop across the hall. That may be who you dealt with. She knows how to take the orders but that's about the sum of her knowledge. Carol is the one with much shorter hair and glasses. They do get extremely busy and they have a tiny shop. Making an appointment is the best way to make sure you're dealing with Carol and have her full attention.

    Also, I asked a lot about her production and she does not sub contract out. The workshop is exclusively hers and all quality control runs through her. The workshop itself is offsite (it'd be crazy to have a workshop in TST) but it's in HK and certainly counts as completely in-house tailoring. The sifu and his assistants all only work for her - it's a selling point for her that your orders aren't getting contracted out elsewhere. I've met the sifu before too.

    That was my experience and I've tried to relay it the best I can. I hope that helps.

    I can take a few pictures if you can show me a sample of the angles or places you want in the pictures so that I can do it right. I'm not always familiar with the terminology so I may not know what you're referring to unless you show me.
     
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  9. Classic Car

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    Please show us some photos as you are wearing the shirts and suits.
     
  10. bamboo

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    I don't remember the name of the tailor. It was not a top class house definitely. It was mostly lapel roll and chest I think.
    You can definitely specify lapel width, gauge height, button stance and quarter shape. So, it can be done better at more skillful tailor, I think.
    Good luck.
     
  11. stylomilo

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    Yes, pictures would be good for us to assess the fit.

    Please also include close ups for us to assess the quality.

    Does the shirt maker :-

    1. shank the buttons?
    2. use mother of pearl buttons and offer thicker buttons as options?
    3. provide non fused collars and cuffs as a default?
     
  12. stylomilo

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    Does Baromon do CMT? If so , how much do they charge?
     
  13. manlai

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    She had sheets of button samples to pick from and I picked some more simpler ones since I'm pretty rough on them and didn't want anything too designer. I've got a big weekend and week coming up so I'll try to get some photos up by end of next week.
     
  14. Classic Car

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    I do not think Collar Seasons offer above for US$55.- per shirt, their target is middle income/ spending customers. Not high end, but with this price , it is a good value. Regarding their suits, they do not have any good fabric sample books such as Scabal, Dormeuil or Holland Sherry. Their fabric brands are unknown to me. Their suits are fused with a decent cut and finish, not impressive .

    Afterall, it is a good place for mid-price shirts.
     
  15. manlai

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    My suit is vitale barberis canonico super 140 and it was on their low end of prices. I'm not an expert on fabrics so make your own judgments there. I bought it for regular work or other normal suit occasion wear. I have no idea as to the full extent of their other fabrics (they have many more in the closet out of the way) but I'm happy with VBC quality and price point for a regular occasion suit.
     
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  16. Classic Car

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    VBC 140 is acceptable, many high end tailor shops use it as entry level, maybe around HK$3xx per yd. with extra pant, I think HK$1,600 (USD200.-) is enough for fabric alone. How much does she charge you? With good photos, I can have a basic idea.
     
  17. Classic Car

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    Do they do CMT as well? If yes, how much do they charge?
     
  18. iSurg

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    Sounds like MTM if they pin a fitting shirt and suit. Not bespoke, sorry.
     
  19. Classic Car

    Classic Car Well-Known Member

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    I agreed with you.
     
  20. Classic Car

    Classic Car Well-Known Member

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    However, to be reasonable. under AUD60.- per shirt is quite tough to get a real bespoke shirt In Hong Kong. Labour and rent are pretty high in here nowadays.
     

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