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Stephen Colbert roasts

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by DNW, May 2, 2006.

  1. odoreater

    odoreater Well-Known Member

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    I really disagree with a lot of Justice Scalia's legal opinions, but I think that the man is brilliant and I am a great admirer of his.
     
  2. mr_economy

    mr_economy Well-Known Member

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    I really disagree with a lot of Justice Scalia's legal opinions, but I think that the man is brilliant and I am a great admirer of his.

    Agreed. I completely disagree with 99% of what he writes and decides (though to his defense he's pretty good when it comes to 4th Amendment issues), but from his writing it is clear that he is both brilliant and in posession of a sharp wit that most of the other Justices lack. For the wit alone, I've always enjoyed reading opinions, even ones I disagree with, authored by Scalia.
     
  3. dah328

    dah328 Well-Known Member

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    Richard Cohen is right on the money:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...302202_pf.html
     
  4. imageWIS

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    Richard Cohen is right on the money: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...302202_pf.html
    Wow, those arguments are soaring; soaring just like the Hindenburg… [​IMG] He was funny, and he has brass balls, which is more than what I can say about most journalists. Who, criticize Colbert, but not the administration...Wow, that’s ballsy. Oh, and Colbert is the bully? Not Bush, with his ‘collation of the willing’ and his ‘you’re either with us or against us’ rhetoric? No, it’s Colbert that is the bully. What a bunch of nonsense. Jon.
     
  5. edmorel

    edmorel Well-Known Member

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    Scalia?

    He probably qualifies 99.9% of the time. Even his detractors generally agree with that.



    Scalia, much like myself, is always the smartest man in the room as we both went to Xavier HS in NYC [​IMG]
     
  6. edmorel

    edmorel Well-Known Member

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    Richard Cohen is right on the money:



    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...302202_pf.html


    Those that can do, those that can't, criticize those that do [​IMG]
    Sounds like Mr. Cohen is suffering either from jealousy or sour grapes.
     
  7. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Well-Known Member

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    clearly, 'funny' is a value-laden term. and, politics is personal and cultural.

    just to be clear - what the commentators (including us and the blogosphere) are doing now is trying to steer the cultural rudder by emphasizing or de-emphasizing the different qualities of his speech.

    i think colbert makes a pretty good court jester.
     
  8. imageWIS

    imageWIS Well-Known Member

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    Those that can do, those that can't, criticize those that do [​IMG]
    Sounds like Mr. Cohen is suffering either from jealousy or sour grapes.


    Exactly.

    Jon.
     
  9. DNW

    DNW Well-Known Member

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    This mentality is exactly what Chomsky wrote about in Manufacturing Consent. Most mainstream journalists just have too much at stake and have not enough balls to step up to the administration. By writing the piece, it's apparent that Mr. Cohen, and perhaps the rest of these politically correct journalists, think that most of Americans can't think for themselves. Do we need instructions from this guy on what is appropriate at this event, even though the man himself hasn't never been there? How long has it been since anyone had the balls to criticize Bush in his face? Perhaps Mr. Cohen is trying to score some points so that he's on the good side of the White House. Whatever his motive was for writing the piece, I could care less. I watched, I cringed, I laughed, then I applauded.
     
  10. oDD_LotS

    oDD_LotS Well-Known Member

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    I thought Colbert was both hilarious and wholy correct in his statements. I'm a much bigger fan of his now than before seeing his performance at the event.

    In my mind, this was quite similar to Jon Stewart's appearance on Crossfire, which I also greatly enjoyed. It was funny, which was great, but was also a very on-the-mark critique of the administration that I thought brought up some great points and provided for some good internet discussion.
     
  11. edmorel

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    "Colbert took a swipe at Bush's Iraq policy, at domestic eavesdropping, and he took a shot at the news corps for purportedly being nothing more than stenographers recording what the Bush White House said. He referred to the recent staff changes at the White House, chiding the media for supposedly repeating the cliche "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" when he would have put it differently: "This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring. If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg." A mixed metaphor, and lame as can be."

    The Hindenburg comment is political satire at its best. Ribbing them, but not going ridiculously overboard. How Mr. Cohen can call this line "a mixed metaphor (huh???), and lame as can be" is mind boggling.
     
  12. Brian SD

    Brian SD Well-Known Member

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    As much as Cohen's report rips on Colbert, it can be expected from members of the news corps who Colbert gave a good old fashioned rimjob to in his speech. There have been numerous newspaper reports (including one in the Washington Post, where Cohen's article was published) that say the exact opposite of Cohen's perspective.

    Colbert has some amazing guts, and damn that was funny.
     
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    I just really enjoy how he tries to convince me that he's hilarious. [edit] A good old fashioned what?
     
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    ... rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg." .... How Mr. Cohen can call this line "a mixed metaphor (huh???)....
    but it is a mixed metaphor. that's the 'funny' part of it. most mixed metaphors are kindof funny.
     
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    but it is a mixed metaphor. that's the 'funny' part of it. most mixed metaphors are kindof funny.
    But I distinctly saw the interior of the Hindenburg in that Indiana Jones movie, and there were no deck chairs present, therefore this joke is DQed.

    PS: No ticket.
     
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    I really disagree with a lot of Justice Scalia's legal opinions, but I think that the man is brilliant and I am a great admirer of his.

    completely disagree with scalia, but he is brilliant at times. and i mean, i completely disagree....
     
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    But I distinctly saw the interior of the Hindenburg in that Indiana Jones movie, and there were no deck chairs present, therefore this joke is DQed.

    PS: No ticket.


    Thanks god, and I thought I was the only one who got historical facts from Steve Spielberg movies. [​IMG]

    Jon.
     
  18. shoreman1782

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    For the record, I've read a lot of Richard Cohen columns, and though I like him, his self-reported sense of humor doesn't come through. He's a columnist, though, so he shouldn't logically be offended by making fun of reporters.

    I've heard one explanation that Colbert may have come off better over TV/video clip than he did in the room. His jokes might have been a little too rapid fire and deadpan to play well live, in a big room.
     
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    I just really enjoy how he tries to convince me that he's hilarious. [edit] A good old fashioned what?
    Yeah I was wondering what Trad had come to these days too...
     
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    He's under no obligation to be funny. He's there to give cynics like me a voice.
     

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