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Star Trek into Darkness (2013)

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Jr Mouse, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Well-Known Member

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    Here's something else to ponder. We know Peter Weller has been cast for the film, but they have provided very few details about his role. Normally this early in the game that wouldn't mean much, but you have to consider two thing.

    1. He's a well known name in Sci-Fi. If I were in-charge of marketing this movie to it's core audience, I would think it foolish not to put him and his role out to help increase buzz.

    2. It's odd that all they have said so far is he plays a "CEO" which is decidedly a very un-Star Trek roll.

    So where am I going with this? Well if fans are willing to engage in mental gymnastics to try and explain how they could cast a pasty man with a thick British accent as Khan, it stands to believe they would have far less trouble accepting one who looks like this.

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    He's not the right nationality, but truthfully neither was Ricardo Montalbán. So what if Weller's character is Khan? While everyone is speculating who Crumby plays, they manage to sneak Khan into the film another way. Having Khan make an apparence, but not be the film's main villian could easily fit into the theories I have posted before.
     
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  2. Harold falcon

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    Peter Weller is best Weller. Fucking RoboCop and Buckaroo Banzai? I am a fan.
     
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    Fucking love Peter Weller :slayer:
     
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    People aren't focusing on the important thing - what happened to all the lens flare!?
     
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    All the more reason that my speculation here may hold water. :nodding:




    I've read that the lens flares have greatly been toned down in the footage shown so far. Not that I hated them in the first film, like it appears some did. :embar:
     
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    the trailer footage previewed before Hobbit was fun.
     
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  7. jrd617

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    "Villain getting caught on purpose" is now a full fledged cliche. Started with Dark Knight.

    Avengers... Skyfall... now Star Trek


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    Not to mention this. JJ Abrams just doesnt give a fukk

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    I never got the uproar either. Didn't bug me in the least.
     
  9. Gradstudent78

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    I doubt he's involved with designing promotional posters.
     
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    Beyond a final approval process on art direction for certain promotional campaigns, you are more then likely correct.

    I don't see what the big deal with the poster is. Hollywood does this shit all the time. It's like the fact that every trailer these days has to feature the Inception sound. When something works the marketing guys run with it.
     
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  11. Harold falcon

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    Started with Dark Knight? Have you not seen a film made before 2004?

    I hate you young people. You're so goddamn dumb.
     
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    I don't think it's the stupidity that bothers me, it's the lack of awareness of their stupidity. It may be a little worse now with all that coddling, self-esteem boosting nonsense, but I'm sure people said the same thing about us.
     
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    I didn't say it started with Dark Knight. I said the cliche started with Dark Knight. Plans a big crime, gets caught, locked behind bars and laughs at his captors.

    But can you name an example of a movie before Dark Knight that did this? Complete with the imagery of the villain laughing from behind bars? (Maybe Se7en)

    Also, clear influence of Dark Knight on Skyfall.

    http://collider.com/sam-mendes-skyfall-the-dark-knight/204523/
     
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  14. Harold falcon

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    That you just mentioned se7en proves my point. And there are HUNDREDS of movies before that. Are you twelve? I'm not going to argue on the Internet with a 12 year old.
     
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    Se7en came out nine years before 2004....

    Whatever these movies might be, it's clear that Dark Knight has influenced a lot of recent action movies. Down to "dark" themes (see the Mendes interview), promotional materials (come on, BLATANT. A designer working in the film industry would have remembered the Dark Knight Rises poster), and even direct plot points and camera angles
     
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    Without too much thought, Return of the Jedi has Luke getting caught on purpose. Pretty much the whole plot of Law-Abiding Citizen is Gerard Butler getting caught on purpose.
     
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    Luke ain't a villain. Wasn't laughing behind a cage either.

    Dark Knight: July 2008
    Law Abiding Citizen: Oct 2009
     
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    I give up. The Gen y'er has proven my point by 6 years and still thinks he's a cinematic genius.
     
  19. jrd617

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    Lulz Harv. Cinematic genius? Your words not mine.

    Seems you're just giving me a hard time as a contrarian.
     
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    Possibly Ocean's Eleven, 2001 (they aren't necessarily villains in the same sense, but they are master thieves).
     

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