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St. Crispin's Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by medtech_expat, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. NAMOR

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    Congratulations! They came out great.
     
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    I envy those who got to visit with Phillip Carr at LSBH last weekend. Sadly I had to cancel last minute. Guess I'll have to wait until next year now. as, based on everybody's commentary, I definitely want to get fitted by Mr. Carr for my next pair of StC.
     
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    That was actually some decent Chinese typeface.
     
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    what's the character on the left shoe?
     
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    Right shoes "many". Left shoes "peace".
     
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    +1
     
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    The wholecuts look great (the ones on the platform picture above, right?). Do you think they fit more comfortably due to the fact that they are shell, which tends to give more?
     
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    I was thinking about this and my feelings are opposite of your intuition. I think shell tends to give less. Since it doesn't bend as easily it doesn't put as much strain on the foot it seems. Or it could be that StC just accounts for type of leather when lasting. For example with calf they last it tighter (or maybe just because it is easier to do with calf) to account for stretching, whereas shell isn't going to stretch all that much. As of right now the calf pair that I have feel a bit tight in the ball and hurt the tops of my toes. I think after I wear them a bit this will go away, but the other two shell pairs that I have don't do this. Also the shell pair that I have had for a few months now haven't seemed to stretch all that much. Calf generally loosens up quite a bit in my experience.
     
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    Second time with my feet in them and there does seem to be some creasing in the lower captoe area. You can see in this photo below the left shoe looks more prominent. When I get my hand inside of it and feel around I notice a couple one things. First, the toe puff seems a lot softer than on many of my lower prices shoes (all leather?) Also, the toe puff ends short of the captoe itself allowing it to bend past the stitching. Not sure if this is a conscious move on their part, but the cap itself seems bigger than on other brands classic captoe. FWIW, my shell punch captoes don't do this, but I attribute that more to it being shell and it doesn't bend as easy. FWIW, these are the slightly tight ball of foot ones. I think thinking once they stretch and loosen up the secondary creases towards the cap area will not be as severe and the sight might be reduced with some cream. Can't hurt to address it with Philip in two weeks when I see him. See below a pic of the shoes flexed and flat:

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    Question: Do we know anything about the calf that StC uses for their shoes? What tannery, standards, etc?
     
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    Ethan form rugged old salt also has this crease

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    It is right where the toe puff ends. Doesn't bother me honestly. If they were bespoke it would.
     
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    Come to think of it, you are probably right!

    Was there any particular reason you went with shell, other than looks?
     
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    very strange, why wouldn't they end the toe puff in line with the cap toe, much nicer visually.
     
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    Ease of care, durability.
    I think if they ended it with the stitches the vamp wouldn't be able to bend as freely. I think it is more a question of style having a large captoe than a short puff.
     
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    My answers are much the same as the others. I own one pair of St Crispins. Phillip checked the fit on my foot both sitting and standing, then watched me walk around in them a bit. I spent some time talking to him about the shoes and making choices about what I wanted to order while wearing the shoes. I'd just spent two hours driving from San Diego, so he wanted to see if my feet would swell a bit. Then we went through the same process again. After that, Phillip had me take the shoes off so he could look at the shape of my foot. No measurements taken.
     
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    but the captoe doesn't seem that large nor long....
     
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    Very nice.

    I really like the type of leather being used here.

    Hatch Grain?
     
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    Thanks. Not sure of the name or the model number. I just grabbed the picture off Ethan from the Armoury's Tumbler and showed it to Phillip.
     

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