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Spotted on the subway

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by trogdor, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. trogdor

    trogdor Well-Known Member

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    Doubtless this will make the purists amongst us spit blood, but yesterday on my way home I saw an intriguing thing. A guy was sporting what looked like a regular oxford cloth button down but ... with french cuffs. I'm pretty sure he hadn't done a Constanza, and it wasn't a tie-less tab collar, or one of those Rumsfeld-esque hidden button jobbies. It was like a pure synthesis.

    Here's the killer ... it looked pretty good... I think I'd like one.

    So, has anyone seen this kind of thing? Is it just my naivete to think that such a thing didn't exist? Who makes them?
     
  2. Mike C.

    Mike C. Well-Known Member

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    Thom Browne makes french cuff oxford shirts. They come in solids as well as white cuff/collar.
     
  3. cuffthis

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    Was the guy also wearing a double-breasted suit with notch lapels, a belt and braces, and a matching tie and pocket square?

    If you are going to break one felony level sartorial rule, might as well break all the serious rules.
     
  4. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Well-Known Member

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    I saw a 4 button double breasted with notched lapels today.


    It was funny, actually. Walking around midtown I decided I should bring a camera and document for this board the various outfits of random strangers - the good, the bad, and the ugly. There are some amazing outfits in midtown... and some attrocious ones. Then I thought how people would react to a random person taking there picture and thought better of the idea.
     
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    Interesting enough, I was at the offices of Skadden Arps the other day, and one of their senior partners was also sporting the hideous buttondown/french-cuff shirt. Looked terrible, and I was very suprised to see a senior-level exec at a top law firm wearing such a thing.

    Sustanon
     
  6. oscarthewild

    oscarthewild Well-Known Member

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    Shouldn't it also be a "black suit"
     
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    faustian bargain Well-Known Member

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    if this was in the city, it should be 'brown suit'.
     
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    With pinstripes, for city.

    Jon.
     
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    faustian bargain Well-Known Member

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    ...although that goes against the title of the thread, "spotted" on the subway. [​IMG] oh no i didn't...
     
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    Mildly odd but not ultra-terrible in my book.
     
  11. trogdor

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    OK ok ok. I guess I don't want one any more. [​IMG]
     
  12. Nick M

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    Elvis sported them occasionally in his movies. [​IMG] I don't mind the look myself - could work with a mod 60s style suit.
     
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    I don't know, man. I'm not brave enough to wear one of these. I mean, why go through the trouble of having fussy french cuffs if you're willing to go with a comfortable soft button-down collar? Or are you talking about those stiff button-down collars with the buttons a bit higher up from the peaks? (A new phenomenon, at least to me.)
     
  14. Nick M

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    It strikes me as the kind of shirt someone might wear if they've worn button-down collars their whole life, and wants to dress up their navy blazer/sack suit. They wouldn't even conceive of trying another collar.

    Trad trad, trad trad trad.
     
  15. Alias

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    My aunt was murdered by a button-down collar. True story.
     
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    A different sort of violation perhaps:

    Today, I saw a man in a very baggy four-button suit with only the bottom button buttoned. That's right. And it's not that strange a sight in Beijing, but what distinguished this fellow was the large "LV" messenger bag strapped over his back. Perhaps his exceedingly chunky, plastic, black shoes go without saying.

    Despite all of this he was in a party of men that I could tell were relatively distinguished businessmen, probably discussing which foreign insurance companies would be allowed to operate here or something.

    The four button bottom-buttoned-only look is surprisingly popular. I can't pretend to see why.
     
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    I don't know if it was the first company to offer a button-down/french cuff shirt, but Paul Frederick has had them since the early 1990s. If I remember correctly, they said that they were responding to customer demand.
     
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    (Alias @ June 02 2005,19:37) I don't know, man. I'm not brave enough to wear one of these. I mean, why go through the trouble of having fussy french cuffs if you're willing to go with a comfortable soft button-down collar? Or are you talking about those stiff button-down collars with the buttons a bit higher up from the peaks? (A new phenomenon, at least to me.)
    It strikes me as the kind of shirt someone might wear if they've worn button-down collars their whole life, and wants to dress up their navy blazer/sack suit. They wouldn't even conceive of trying another collar. Trad trad, trad trad trad.
    No self-respecting (nor even self-loathing) Trad would ever wear one of those things. Now button-down with dinner jacket a la Wm. Buckley is another story. Shirt sounds awkward.
     
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    Very odd. Reminds me of a lot of people around here who don't seem to know about any collars save the button down. I see guys in pinstripes and solid ties, obviously not affecting a trad sack look, wearing button down collars (always with a pony.)
     

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