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SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by spiermackay, Mar 14, 2014.

  1. Mr Clemson

    Mr Clemson Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone happen to own a S&M suit in the slim fit and also a SuSu suit in the Lazio, Sienna, or Havana that could compare the slimness of the pants? Per the measurements, it looks like the SuSu pants are more tapered below the thigh, which I actually like given my slim legs, but I would love to get feedback from someone who owns both.
     
  2. KWang94

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    I own a SM 34R and a SS Lazio 34R.

    My experience is that the SM is much more tapered than the Lazio.
     
  3. Mr Clemson

    Mr Clemson Well-Known Member

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    Oh wow. I would have thought the opposite. Thanks for the feedback.
     
  5. Spex

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    Kamakura recently released their Sciolto model shirt which features a 1-piece collar. Would Spier & Mackay be able to execute this type of feature? For those not familiar with this, note the absence of a collar band.

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  6. ino68

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    Like the one Jiro wore in 'Jiro Dreams of Sushi'?

    That one had a smooth line from placket to collar point, where this one seems to just have no collar band.
     
  7. CanadaCal

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    I've asked for this, looking exactly for the Jiro shirt.

    Rick said they are working on the pattern.
     
  8. Spex

    Spex Well-Known Member

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    There was a brief thread about Jiro's shirt: http://www.styleforum.net/t/331638/japanese-button-down-shirts-quite-different
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    Looking at the photo there it doesn't look any different than the Kamakura Sciolto button down collar. The thing I just realized is that the spread collar version has a top button so that it can be buttoned all the way up to be worn with a tie, while the button down collar has no top button so it's meant to be worn open.

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  9. CanadaCal

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    The white button down version looks excellent. Pics remind me, I should get a few french placket shirts, one piece collar or not.
     
  10. KWang94

    KWang94 Well-Known Member

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    Quote:Just had S&M create a one piece collar for me. Very pleased with mine. Stands up like a champ.
     
  11. Lancaster

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    When's tie is worn with a popover, the difference between the popover and the button shirt more or less disappears. It generally will look like a tie worn with a button shirt. When a tie is worn with a polo shirt, it looks like a tie worn with a polo shirt. That is a pretty stark distinction.
     
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  12. kammerer66

    kammerer66 Well-Known Member

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    Tie or no tie, what are the benefits of the popover shirt, compared to a button up shirt? I am genuinely curious.
     
  13. Lancaster

    Lancaster Well-Known Member

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    I don't usually wear them with a tie but I like popovers because the lack of buttons where you'd expect to find them make them visually interesting. My friend wears ties with popovers and he likes them for their versatility. With a tie they look like their button down cousins and when he takes the tie off the popovers are a step down on the formality ladder from full button downs so he can feel/experience/project a range of formality with one garment by simple removing his tie.
     
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    I wear a 34R in Lazio and a 38R slim in SM fit me
     
  15. Spex

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    As someone mentioned earlier, I'm wondering if a popover that fits like my custom S&M shirts would be difficult to slip on, considering the trim-ness and high armholes. I have no experience wearing pop overs, so maybe it's a misconception.
     
  16. spiermackay

    spiermackay Well-Known Member

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    Generally add 1" to your chest,waist, hip measurements. 1.5" if your shirts are really slim.
     
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  18. Spex

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    That's exactly it. A popover would end up being a more casual, loose fitting shirt. I'm not sure I'd wear one with a tie, like my more tailored spread collar shirts that I buy for wearing with a tie.
     
  19. The Dirk

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    @SPIER & MACKAY Sorry to bug ya if this has already been asked, but are all your suits in stock now made at the new factory? I know the ones with the basting over the lapel are, but I was wondering the the other older staples are all made in the same location. I'm trying to decide which suit to buy as my second Spier and Mackay suit, so I want to be certain I'm getting something from the new factory since it's a slightly better make.

    P.S. Just bought 4 dress shirts from you guys, and wow! they are great! Got the Premium White dress shirt, and it's excellent.

    Dirk
     
  20. spiermackay

    spiermackay Well-Known Member

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    No, we still have some older odds/ends kicking around. The ones with the basted stitch over the lapel hole are the new factory make. Stick to those if you want to make sure.

    Thanks for the praise!
     

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