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Soccer • Football • Voetbal • Fútbol • Calcio • Futebol - 2012-2013 Thread (Including EURO2012)

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by El Argentino, May 22, 2012.

  1. Reynard369

    Reynard369 Well-Known Member

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    Sure, it's an excellent team, but not even close to representative of the best team possible of players this year...
     
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    lasbar Well-Known Member

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    It is a great team apart from Pique ...

    YayaToure is excellent too...
     
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    the shah Well-Known Member

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    who doesn't care about any of this ?
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  4. lasbar

    lasbar Well-Known Member

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    My crazy/insane all time 11:

    Higuita

    Vinnie Jones Materazzi Gentile


    Barton Gascoigne Maradona Roy Keane



    Cantona Balotelli Di Canio


    Subs: El Hadj Diouf Grobelaar Ronaldo Dennis Wise and so many others
     
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    We shouldn't forget Souness!

    youtube.com/#/watch?v=ygVgxYa3mlo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DygVgxYa3mlo
     
  6. lasbar

    lasbar Well-Known Member

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    He could be the manager..

    I remember when he planted his club's flag in the center of the pitch of their mortal enemy in Turkey..
     
  7. El Argentino

    El Argentino Well-Known Member

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    Madrid through in the Copa w/ 4-0 today. Higuaín coming back from injury as a sub w/ an assist. Guy looking heavy though. :uhoh:
     
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    When has he not??  He´s always been a heavier and more skilfull, but with less shot power, Batistuta. 
     
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    Higuain is the latin version of Adebayor

    edit: cept he got less mojo dan dis african
     
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  10. lasbar

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    :uhoh:

    Certain moments are meant to be kept private..

    That's some shit dancing from Ramos.
     
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    Lionheart Biker Well-Known Member

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    El delantero sueco Zlatan Ibrahimovic, figura del París Saint Germain francés, no tuvo contemplación y se burló tanto de Lionel Messi como del portugués Cristiano Ronaldo.
    El atacante, de 31 años, se mofó de la baja estatura (1,61 metros) del astro rosarino del Barcelona, que a comienzos de semana se quedó con el cuarto Balón de Oro que otorga la FIFA.
    "Podrá tener cuatro Balones de Oro, pero yo puedo comprar chocolatines de una máquina sin tener que poner una caja debajo", expresó Ibrahimovic, quien fue compañero de Messi en la entidad catalana, en la temporada 2009-2010.
    Pero el sueco castigó peor a Cristiano Ronaldo, la figura del Real Madrid, de quien dijo: "Es un privilegiado, siempre ve en primera fila cómo premian a (Lionel) Messi".
    Ibrahimovic consideró que el portugués ni siquiera merecía "estar entre los tres finalistas" en la votación que decidió al mejor jugador del mundo durante la temporada 2012.

    "Hay, por lo menos, diez jugadores mejores que Cristiano Ronaldo", sostuvo el sueco, quien está realizando una muy buena campaña con el PSG, con el que marcó 18 conquistas en 16 partidos en lo que va del certamen.


    In a nutshell: Zlatan makes fun of Lio for being short, saying: "He may have 4 Ballons d´Or, but I can buy chocolates from a vending machine without having to put a box below me" [​IMG]
    And then about Cristiano: "He´s privileged, he´s always in the front row watching messi getting awards" [​IMG]
     
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  12. idfnl

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    I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of racialism goings on here. Spanish have a tendency to view the Portuguese as inferior and they dont like JM being the smartest guy in the room, and he is. And CR being their best player too.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Casillas and Ramos undermine him heavily. While Casillas comes across as a diplomat in the media, he very well may be a political dickhead in the dressing room. We already know Ramos is.

    And GTFO with the 'madrid way' bullshit. This isn't 1962.



    I got shit for this last year but I stand by my belief Bale is the #3 player in the world.




    Tragic. Really tragic.



    Look, Del Bosque won a trophy but this is bullshit. Nobody looks at context. Jurgen Klopp at Dortmund was the standout manager last season by MILES. While JM is the best manager in the world on aggregate, Klopp is definitely #2 and delivered more than JM did.


    ...........

    Regarding the FIFA XI.... that's a joke

    IKER CASILLAS, DANI ALVES, MARCELO, GERARD PIQUÉ, SERGIO RAMOS, ANDRÉS INIESTA, XABI ALONSO, XAVI HERNANDEZ, CRISTIANO RONALDO, RADAMEL FALCAO, LIONEL MESSI

    Alves? Lahm is better.

    Pique? No fucking way he gets over on Kompany. Shit, even Vidic is better healthy. Kompany is the best defender in the world by a mile.

    Ramos? Worst pick of the lot. Get the fuck out. Even Pepe is better. And this Thiago Silva kid at PSG can play.

    Alonso? Come on, get real. Iniesta, eh maybe, but he's not some world beater. Daniel Di Rossi, Yaya Toure, Gotze and Pirlo and a few others over these 2.

    Bale deserves honorable mention, but CR and LM are ahead of him.
     
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    Iniesta not a world beater? All the sensible things you said in that post just lost all their credibility.
     
  14. El Argentino

    El Argentino Well-Known Member

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    I can accurately cite a "Madrid Way" as long as the entire world talks about the "Barcelona Way"

    C'mon man.
     
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    Everyone rates him, but I don't to the level others do. He reminds me of guys in the NBA that are great within a system and horrible outside it. His Barca and intl games all play within that endlessly boring tikki takki style. I'd be surprised if he'd be viewed the same way outside of it. He'll retire there so we'll never know. Anyway, this aside, wouldn't you take the other guys I named over him?




    Lets not forget the Arsenal Way
     
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  16. El Argentino

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    Well, ok - if we wanted to break it down here we go;

    FIFPRO XI (vs. El Arg's XI for 2011-12) Going to try to strike a proper balance between form for the year (what the XI team is looking at) and overall class (Ex - Alves makes his position on overall class demonstrated throughout his career, but surely not on form for last year - Leaning too far one way we get players like Javier Zanetti or Maicon, too far the other we get players like Debuchy. I'm looking for that middle ground)

    IKER CASILLAS - Casillas.
    DANI ALVES - Lahm. You called it idfnl - Semi-final CL run, quarterfinal Euro run, Bayern sitting pretty in Bundesliga.
    MARCELO - Marcelo. Agree here. Ashley Cole may also be a possibility here if not for a severe drop-off in play over the last year. Coentrão's year sucked, and who else really compares beyond that? Jordi Alba, maybe. In elite teams you have Andre Santos? Evra? Glichy? Alaba? Mesbah? Nagatomo? LB seems to be the world's most sparse position.
    GERARD PIQUÉ - Would agree with Piqué here in general as one of the world's elite CBs (and was my first instinct), but I'd agree that Kompany had a more dominant single season.
    SERGIO RAMOS - Appropriate. Semi-final CL, Euro win. Came into his own as a CB transferring over from RB. Vidic or Ferdinand didn't play enough to merit this spot.

    ANDRÉS INIESTA - No question. Heartbeat of Barça. Played great through club and international year.
    XABI ALONSO - No question. Heartbeat of Madrid. Played great through club and international year.
    XAVI HERNANDEZ - If anything, this is my question here. Played a level down from his standard (due to both age and niggling injuries throughout the year). Here is where I would vote in Pirlo based on his dominant Euro showing and undefeated Juventus season. I believe rep overall gave Xavi the vote here.

    CRISTIANO RONALDO - Undisputed.
    RADAMEL FALCAO - Undisputed. More of a newcomer to the "world-beater" scene, but absolutely dominant in everything he did. Truly merits the spot for the year.
    LIONEL MESSI - Undisputed.

    Meh. There we go.


    Assuredly.

    EDIT: Sahin dropped by Liverpool, Madrid loan him immediately back to Borussia Dortumund long-term.
     
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  17. Reynard369

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    Good for Sahin. He's a player I love to watch (even though he plays for Dortmund). He's a quality footballer, but his career went pear-shaped after leaving Germany. Hopefully he'll be able to turn it back around, though hopefully not against Schalke.
     
  18. Jabonator

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    Iniesta is the 3rd best player in the world. And it's not like he had a bad year either. Absolute blasphemy to leave him out.

    To me the XI would look like this.

    Cech - Close call between a couple keepers, but winning the UCL tips it to him.
    Lahm - Alves is in a bit of a dip, and I no longer think he's the best in the world. Hopefully he can make a comeback though. Lahm's always solid.
    Ivanovic - Had a great year at Chelsea, playing CB/RB. Breakthrough year.
    Kompany - One of the best centerbacks out there.
    Alba - Has become one of the best LBs in the world, and had a great Euro.
    Yaya Toure - One of the greatest midfielders in the world, and perhaps the most important player in Manchester City.
    Iniesta - As I said, 3rd best player in the world, and had a great year on a personal level in Barca, and was the best player in Euro.
    Pirlo - Lead Juventus to an unbeaten league title and had a great Euro.
    Ronaldo - Obvious.
    Messi - Obvious.
    Falcao - RvP comes close, but to me Falcao edges it.
     
  19. El Argentino

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    I like your choices Jab - and can understand them... ;)

    Looks like Snjeider is being offloaded to Galatasaray too.
     
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    Torres should replace Messi ... I mean come on, scoring is one thing but FA Cup, CL, and Euros :bigstar:
     

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