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Shoe Damage Report & Shoe P0rn Central - Part II

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Oyaji, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. OzzyJones

    OzzyJones Well-Known Member

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    Hahaaaaa! The Barker Blacks? What a furore those caused!
     
  2. patrickBOOTH

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    I don't think you can look at any one attribute of a shoe and make a fair comparison. I think the legacy of a lot of shoemakers stems from their ability to make everything flow well together. So, I don't think it is fair to say, I don't like short caps, because a short cap can work in one context and not another. To me I see a lot of problems with AE's, but that's besides the point.
     
  3. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

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    Interesting and good to know, thanks.
     
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    ^I find that true for most shoes under about the $800 mark. They use pretty standard and seemingly thin outsoles. You can always tell when they aren't oak bark tanned because they get very slick and slippery. Oak bark soles get a kind of "nap" on them almost like suede. It helps a lot for traction, and honestly, way less slippery than dianites.
     
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  5. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

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    I think that's a fair assessment. It isn't only AE that uses outsoles that are below traditional oak bark tanned (like Baker's) or Redenbach quality.

    The good news with AE, at least, is that you can have them put on a Redenbach sole when they are sent in for recrafting (assuming you use their recrafting service). Of course you can always have an aftermarket cobbler do what too.
     
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  6. DWFII

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    That's been my experience, as well, both on my feet and in shoes I've made for others.

    But Rendenbch and Baker aren't the only good tannages.

    Baker is exceptional and pure oak bark. That said, they seem a little soft (to my taste). The insole shoulders are without peer however.

    Rendenbach is very good and mostly valona (acorn caps) tanned but too brittle for my druthers.

    I've taken to using a Belgian chestnut tannage from Manseur (sp?) that is beautifully coloured, finishes up just as nicely and is"just right" in terms of temper. And best of all available here in the US...without a brand on the grain surface.

    Parenthetically...and I've said this before...some of the "slippery" issues with any soling material is the way a person walks and where they carry their weight. Ask any fly fisherman who wades dangerous rivers, if you don't have your weight squarely over your feet before settling on them you're in for a dunking. That said, I've actually had moments when I thought...esp. in very cold weather...that if you walk slowly and deliberately, good leather outsoles are superior to any rubber on ice. Stick your tongue on a patch of cold ice and you'll know why.

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  7. sinnedk

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    love the color



    spolier tags... they save lots of space on pages :)
     
  8. wurger

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    Edward Green Berkeley Black E202.

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  9. Louis XIV

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    Love the Berkeley.
    Will you start adding punched cap toes now that you own so many plain cap toes?
     
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    thanks mate, I currently have 3 punch cap toes, I should add them to the black cap toe thread as they are a variation of the classic.
     
  11. Louis XIV

    Louis XIV Well-Known Member

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    I'd definitely love to see them it that epic thread of yours.
    What are the two different pairs, maybe C&J Belgrave and JL Philip II?
     
  12. RogerP

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    Nice Berkleys, wurger.
     
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    nah, more budget styles from Alfred Sargent, WIlson and Moore.
     
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    I've also taken notice of the same phenomenon, with exception to C&J where I find both their standard line and their handgrade line to wear pretty well on the soles. Not sure what they use.
     
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  16. meister

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    Cross post from C&J thread

     
  17. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Well-Known Member

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    Those would look great for a Halloween party.
     
  18. RogerP

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    Love that colour combo meister - very Boardwalk Empire. I'd rock those well into the fall.
     
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    We don't see a lot of Anthony Cleverley here on the forum. My contribution: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  20. justinkapur

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    Those medallions look like the ones from GG. Beautiful shoes Roger! Id love to see a pic of your collection of shooz
     

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