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Shell or not Shell? Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by makewayhomer, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. makewayhomer

    makewayhomer Well-Known Member

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    figured this thread could be a catch all for discussions regarding leather provenance, in particular the often wondered "are these shoes shell or not?".

    I will start! here are some vintage shoes I stumbled on. they are not marketed as being shell, but seem to have its characteristics. the soles have a good deal of wear on them, but the uppers have no fine creasing. so...thoughts on these?

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  2. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Well-Known Member

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    Corfam. [​IMG] Seriously though, the ripples across the vamp look like shell to me.
     
  3. Albern

    Albern Well-Known Member

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    How do the uppers feel; are they waxy / rubbery or does it feel smooth?

    It's hard to tell without a close up but the heel on the right shoe does have some fine creases that are indicative of calf.
     
  4. Pundit

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    I vote not shell based on the lack of dimpling at the eyelets.
     
  5. ManofKent

    ManofKent Well-Known Member

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    I vote calf from the heel shots.
     
  6. ramuman

    ramuman Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the AE MacNeil in black shell.
     
  7. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the AE MacNeil in black shell.

    Yes.
     
  8. rebel222

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    Those are shell. Look like crap, but shell. Stumbled on? on eBay?? Link
     
  9. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Well-Known Member

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    Inline requoted in their entirety as being top candidates for relasting by Koji Suzuki on a custom last.


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  10. DocHolliday

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    Inline requoted in their entirety as being top candidates for relasting by Koji Suzuki on a custom last.

    Don't blaspheme.
     
  11. Don Carlos

    Don Carlos Well-Known Member

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    Those are shell. Look like crap, but shell.

    This.

    They look like shell, but in the condition they appear to be in, they don't seem worth it.
     
  12. makewayhomer

    makewayhomer Well-Known Member

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    Those are shell. Look like crap, but shell.


    Stumbled on? on eBay??
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    yes, those are them
     
  13. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Well-Known Member

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    Don't blaspheme.

    I am sure that Koji can get the creases out...he's got a whole deep, Japanese soaking tub of Saphir Renovateur at the ready.

    Koji will actually wear these MacNeils himself and sit in this tub of Renovateur for three days and three nights. Why? The body heat releases the uncreasing enzymes in a way that constant application and removal with discarded panty hose (i.e., [​IMG]thode AAAC) could never match.

    Show me another bespoke shoemaker...or any cobbler, really, even those central European ones who consume no carbohydrates except in beer form...who will do that.


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  14. The Shoe Snob

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    Looks like the AE MacNeil in black shell.

    +1
     
  15. makewayhomer

    makewayhomer Well-Known Member

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    thanks all, they are not AE Macneils but are similar styled Florsheim Imperials. I'm pretty sure they made this in black calf and in black shell though.
     
  16. rebel222

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    I like to make wagers on stuff like this. Let's bet on it. I know they're shell, so who wants in?
     
  17. forex

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    They are shell,I can smell.
     
  18. randob300

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    thanks all, they are not AE Macneils but are similar styled Florsheim Imperials. I'm pretty sure they made this in black calf and in black shell though.

    Correct, both calf and shell.

    Those are great candidates for a 'before and after' shot. A little elbow grease and they'll be awesome.
     
  19. makewayhomer

    makewayhomer Well-Known Member

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    I like to make wagers on stuff like this. Let's bet on it. I know they're shell, so who wants in?
    I like your style. no pun intended
    Correct, both calf and shell. Those are great candidates for a 'before and after' shot. A little elbow grease and they'll be awesome.
    see, I think so too. they probably need an immediate resole and heel. but the upper looks to be in good shape, and I could probably give my cobbler $85 and these would look sweet. of course, I don't know what the insole looks like. that could be scary. Dr. Scholls?
     
  20. greekgeek

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    Looks like shell to me.
     

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