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Shell cordovan + rain = ???

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. Don Carlos

    Don Carlos Well-Known Member

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    It is rain-friendlier than calfskin for sure.

    No question about that. But I think a lot of people get the mistaken impression that "rain-friendlier than calfskin" somehow means "weatherproof." I've read talk on these boards about people's buying shell boots for hiking and climbing and whatnot. For those sorts of people, I think some realism is in order. Shell may be more rugged than calf, but it's still relatively delicate on the broad spectrum of all shoe materials.

    If you're caught in the rain wearing shell, you'll probably be fine. But I wouldn't intentionally take shell out into the rain under the mistaken impression that it's purpose-built for said conditions.
     
  2. Xiaogou

    Xiaogou Well-Known Member

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    Solution of 50% white vinegar and 50% water removes water spots. It has always worked for me.
     
  3. Chips

    Chips Well-Known Member

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    A calfskin pair of mine still retain small blisters from an drizzle that became a deluge about a month or so ago. I fear that I made the problem worse by re-pollishing them after the third or fourth day. They were indeed dry, but still badly blistered. Not thick, but just several of them spread throughout the toe.
     
  4. prajna12

    prajna12 Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered a pair of Cordovans, and am wondering what is a good recommended creme for them? I checked the francos web site but they seem to be out of the Cordovan color.
    Any help is appreciated, thanks.
     
  5. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered a pair of Cordovans, and am wondering what is a good recommended creme for them? I checked the francos web site but they seem to be out of the Cordovan color.
    Any help is appreciated, thanks.

    AE has a creme for cordovan that's also very good. Kiwi wax works, too, and is also recommended highly by Alden.
     
  6. furo

    furo Well-Known Member

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    #8 and black seem great in the rain, it seems to me the lighter colors like whiskey, the C&J brown of the darltons and the mid brown of my Riders are more likely to get water spots. They go away eventually, very quickly with the application of Creme Nubiana, but I avoid grabbing those shoes if it looks rainy. The darker colors hold up very well.

    Interesting. I'm wearing a pair of Whiskey Shell Cordovans from Vass today, and it was raining when I went to lunch. I now see small water spots on them even after I wiped them down with a cotton cloth. Hopefully they disappear over a few days or so, otherwise I will try something different.

    Does anyone else know if the 50% white vinegar solution is safe for whiskey shell? And if so, how long does one wait before applying it?

    Also, when I wiped them down this afternoon w/ the cotton cloth, I buffed with a fair amount of pressure. Is this bad?
     
  7. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    Also, when I wiped them down this afternoon w/ the cotton cloth, I buffed with a fair amount of pressure. Is this bad?
    This is good. The more pressure the better.
     
  8. furo

    furo Well-Known Member

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    This is good. The more pressure the better.

    Thanks

    I think I will give them a week to see if the spots go away before buying any creams, etc
     
  9. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    Thanks

    I think I will give them a week to see if the spots go away before buying any creams, etc

    Simply wiping them with a damp cloth followed by a rigorous brushing and then buffing, will sometimes do the trick, too.
     
  10. romafan

    romafan Well-Known Member

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    i think [​IMG]'s 1-shoo might be sc - have you asked him?
     
  11. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Well-Known Member

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    Guys, regarding brushing: I brushed my boots for a few minutes each and didn't really see any difference. I then buffed with a soft cloth and noticed a difference almost immediately. What is the point of brushing?
     
  12. My View2

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    My Carmina shell cordovan whole cut has developed many ugly water marks because of rain. I am really disappointed at this outcome.
     
  13. HHD

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    My Carmina shell cordovan whole cut has developed many ugly water marks because of rain. I am really disappointed at this outcome.

    Is this accumulated damage or a recent soaking? I was caught in a heavy snowfall in my new Carmina cordovan boots and the little raised welts took almost a month to disappear completely.

    I let them dry properly over several days, well away from heat sources. Take off any white water marks (potentially caused by salt) with a clean damp cloth (rub dry afterwards). Buff them now and again with a soft cloth. Brush them with a stiff horsehair brush for a few minutes every couple of days, then buff again.

    Mine are as good as new; well, better than new, as brand-new cordovan can be slightly characterless, like new trainers.
     
  14. mg428

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    Can someone please help me with the rain spots formed on my RL Marlow/Darlton dark brown shell cordovan PTBs?? The shoes were subject to rain just for 10 seconds! I cannot imagine what would have happened if they were exposed longer!! This happened about 10 hours ago. Based on the advise "wait and see" I expected that they would disappear but unfortunately they did not! I buffed the shoes (with a towel) to no avail. In terms of wax, all I have is Alden cordovan wax, which does not conform to the color of these shoes. I don't know what to do!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
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  15. srivats

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    ^ Take a horsehair brush and brush vigourously for 10mins - the spots will start to fade away ... you might want to apply the tinest of paste wax polish (color does not matter but don't use neutral) and apply it evenly. Let it dry, brush for some more time and buff ... With regular wearing and brushing the spots will disappear. This is what gives your shoes patina - nothing to worry about ...
     
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  16. forex

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    I wore my BF longwings in the rain the other day,nothing happened. No spots whatsoever,I was expecting those little stains,but fortunately,nothing happened. I usually have shoes assigned for rainy weather so would probably avoid wearing anything nice in the rain anyways.
     
  17. lawyerdad

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    I just ordered a pair of Cordovans, and am wondering what is a good recommended creme for them? I checked the francos web site but they seem to be out of the Cordovan color.
    Any help is appreciated, thanks.


    AE has a creme for cordovan that's also very good. Kiwi wax works, too, and is also recommended highly by Alden.

    To be clear, you do NOT want to put cream-style polish on shell cordovan shoes. Only use wax-based polish (which is what the Alden product is).
     
  18. mg428

    mg428 Well-Known Member

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    ^ Take a horsehair brush and brush vigourously for 10mins - the spots will start to fade away ... you might want to apply the tinest of paste wax polish (color does not matter but don't use neutral) and apply it evenly. Let it dry, brush for some more time and buff ... With regular wearing and brushing the spots will disappear. This is what gives your shoes patina - nothing to worry about ...

    Thanks, Sri. Brushing with Alden horsehair brush solved the problem. So was your suggestion to apply wax a general suggestion or in relation to the rain spot problem in addition to brushing?
     
  19. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, Sri. Brushing with Alden horsehair brush solved the problem. So was your suggestion to apply wax a general suggestion or in relation to the rain spot problem in addition to brushing?

    It was in relation to the spots - incase they bothered you too much even after brushing.

    Cordovan is wonderful leather. Brushing usually takes out most water spots and scratches on cordovan. I brush my shoes before and after every wear. Paste wax after 15-16 wearings (or if they are exposed to too much water). Brushing generates heat and brings out the waxes/oils in the cordovan to the surface (there is plenty from the way it is tanned). Very crucial to maintaining shell.
     
  20. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    To be clear, you do NOT want to put cream-style polish on shell cordovan shoes. Only use wax-based polish (which is what the Alden product is).

    Mostly, this is true ... alden boot cream (Or AE's for that matter) is useful once in a while to remove polish build up (e.g. if you apply too much or if they are exposed to a LOT of water). I usually condition my shells with alden boot cream twice every year.
     

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