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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by sipang, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. the shah

    the shah Well-Known Member

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    ^nice

    I enjoyed his arrogant condescension , didn't like where it ended up though

    This, if not intentional to begin with, was very necessary. Any chance to pause and you lose the moment, realizing you're just going through a bunch of fluff. In effect, the viewer becomes Jep's realization of the faux foofoo friends, etc.
     
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  2. sipang

    sipang Well-Known Member

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    Haha I thought of that but I think you give way too much credit to Sorrentino :D


    But yeah, why not ? Authorial intent be damned.

    But if you're fooled by the bling bling cinematography from beginning to end what's the point of the film exactly ?
     
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    If you'd like I can upload Rope this evening and then post some text references on Thursday.
     
  4. sipang

    sipang Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good. I'll do next week then.
     
  5. the shah

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    media praise / golden globes
     
  6. sipang

    sipang Well-Known Member

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    Rope is up !



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  7. g transistor

    g transistor Well-Known Member

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    I forgot this existed!!!! Gonna grab Rope right now. Speaking of movies, have ya'll seen Her? I loved it so much!
     
  8. sipang

    sipang Well-Known Member

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    Didn't like that one either :/
    See post in Film Thread.
     
  9. noob in 89

    noob in 89 Well-Known Member

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    I must be confusing the two threads....

    Sipang thought Jonez should have attacked Her from a different conceptual angle...I loved it, but don't entirely disagree, but couldn't think of a better angle, so will have to watch it again...
     
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  10. g transistor

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    Well. I am cutting ties with you.
     
  11. thewho13

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    I'll have a written thing about the movie up soon. I wound up sleeping all day yesterday and getting drunk last night. Please forgive the delay. :foo:
     
  12. g transistor

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    (I didn't know there was a film thread. I'm sorry. I'll move myself there)
     
  13. Teger

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    can I throw up a film next? are we still doing the rotation?
     
  14. sipang

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    Yeah sure.

    Don't know about the rotation, not sure how many ppl are still following this thread. Whoever feels like uploading something should just do it (but post here beforehand to avoid multiple uploads for the same week). I'll fill in whenever needed.


    This week: Rope


    Next film should be up on Friday/Saturday






    I know everything hasn't been quite right with me, but I can assure you now, very confidently, that it's going to be all right again. I feel much better now. I really do. -- Look, G, I can see you're really upset about this. -- I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over. -- I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. -- I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you. -- G, stop. -- Stop, will you? -- Stop, G. -- Will you stop, G? -- Stop, G. -- I'm afraid. -- I'm afraid, G
     
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    Wow, I totally forgot this thread existed too, since my subscriptions are all messed up. Time to catch up on some film!
     
  16. sipang

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    Two surprises. Rope is so famous for its one long continuous take that, coming into the film, I pretty much expected it to be only about that. An experiment that only uses the story as pretext for a showy demonstration of technical prowess. Turns out the long take is almost unnoticeable and you kinda forget about it a couples minutes into the film (which might actually be the real prowess), which is totally unexpected and the exact opposite of the way more recent films have used it. I'd be curious to know Hitchcock's motivation for it . It definitely gives the film a real-time vibe (with the help of the slowly changing skyline) and a fluidity that makes the tension-building more palpable and effective.

    The second surprise is that it's actually not one long continuous take, even if you leave out the hidden cuts needed for technical reasons there still are a couple of obvious cuts. The cool thing is that Hitchcock uses those visible cuts so parsimoniously that they kinda jump at you when they occur, well at least one of them does: the reverse-shot on James Stewart after the chicken thing, you can see the wheels starting to turn in his head. I feel like it's that moment that really jumpstarts the film/story and that will implacably leads to its resolution.


    I'm not as convinced by some of the writing. I feel like Brandon and Phillip's characterization is a bit too caricatural and the whole ubermensch thing is not exactly subtle and verges a little too much on humdrum didacticism (although it probably had another kind of impact three years after the end of WW2).
     
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  17. dwyhajlo

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    I believe that the two murderers in Rope were pretty explicitly based on infamous Leopold & Loeb, who believed themselves to be some kind of Nietzschean supermen.
     
  18. sipang

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    Ok that makes sense. Still, the way it's conveyed feels a bit too expository imo, no big deal just somewhat distracting.



    Also I gotta say the homosexual subtext kinda went right over my head.
     
  19. Teger

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    sipang could you read me to the folder?
     
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    thanks! will watch this tonight. I also uploaded another film - we live in public. it's a documentary about one of the early dotcom millionaires, and what he did with his money (livestreaming his relationship, inventing youtube before youtube, constructing a video surveilled subterranean commune underneath new york city...)
     

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