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Serious Crimes Against CM

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by unbelragazzo, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. irgendwas

    irgendwas Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, the following things are not necessarily "serious crimes against CM":

    - black suits (although charcoal grey and navy blue are better in most cases, a black suit can look good in certain cirumstances)
    - black odd trousers (traditionally worn with smoking jackets and white dinner jackets)
    - black or any other dark shirts (hard to look good in them, but not impossible)
    - jackets that don't cover your rear end (necessary with a kilt; Spencer or mess jackets are another example)
    - suits without ties (turtlenecks can look great with suits; open-necked shirts with suits are hard to pull off, but should not be ruled out completely)
    - light tan shoes with dark suits (a matter of taste)
    - French blue shirts (especially combined with shades of tan or cream)
    - tux with vents (if double-breasted)
    - jackets without pocket squares (pocket squares are optional and can be too much if a boutonniere is worn)
    - buttoning the bottom button of a jacket (one button jackets can't be buttoned in any other way; military jackets are always fully buttoned; it looks fine with double-breasted jackets; rarely, some civilian single-breasted jackets are meant to be worn with all buttons fastened)
    - black shoes and tan pants (look at pictures of Brummell; although he wore boots instead of shoes, black with tan is far from being a "serious crime")
    - suit jacket worn as SC (especially if the jacket is blue or brown)
    - fun socks (I don't like patterned socks, but if "fun socks" implies vibrant colours, fun socks are no problem)
     
  2. Balfour

    Balfour Well-Known Member

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    twit
     
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  3. aravenel

    aravenel Well-Known Member

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    Contrast stitching should definitely make the list, that's a good one.
     
  4. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    +1 on most of those. Most of them are little things that are done VERY frequently on this thread and applauded (if done by the right person)...suits without hankies?...come on.
     
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  5. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    What qualifies as "light tan?"...walnut?
     
  6. Balfour

    Balfour Well-Known Member

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    Nah - for this thread, this is the sort of thing I have in mind:

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    (Of course, as a Limey I wouldn't wear even dark brown shoes with navy if shooting for CBD. But I was avoiding an idiosyncratic British view in contributing to this thread, given the 'generally egregious' premiss.)
     
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  7. Loathing

    Loathing Well-Known Member

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    That's Prince Michael of Kent, not the Duke of Kent. They are two different men.
     
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  8. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    I'd say the pants in the picture Balfour posted are too dark for those shoes, but I think there are some navy with which those shoes would work, though not in a CBD context.

    Also, as far as black suits, should we specify "during the day time" as it becomes a bit more acceptable after the sun goes down?


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    Sometimes his knots work.

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    and sometimes you don't even notice...
    (I'd be smirking too)
     
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  9. kasakka

    kasakka Well-Known Member

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    I like that look. The same suit with dark brown shoes would look wrong, the tan ones create a nice contrast. No, it's not conservative but personally I don't care much for conservative. So if you ask me, lighter brown shoes with dark blue is fine.
     
  10. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    That looks like walnut to me, but I guess there's room for interpretation. I like that combo.
     
  11. irgendwas

    irgendwas Well-Known Member

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    Some serious crimes against CM no one has mentioned:

    - visible belt buckles under waistcoats
    - untucked shirts with a jacket, a waistcoat and/or knitwear
    - pre-"tied" "ties"
    - too short socks, partially revealing the bare leg

    Edit: I know someone who admitted he wore a pre-tied bow tie to the Vienna Opera Ball (which requires white tie). After asking him why he didn't wear a self-tied tie, he said it would have been too time-consuming. I don't think tying a bow tie is time-consuming in comparison to putting on the rest of full evening dress.
     
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  12. SelfMade

    SelfMade Active Member

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    Novelty items (ties, cufflinks, pants, etc)
     
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  13. FillW

    FillW Well-Known Member

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    Right...



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  14. loarbmhs

    loarbmhs Well-Known Member

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    May I had: a) pants without a break and b) puddle pants, where the wearer's heel winds up stepping on the back part of the trousers. Oh, yes, and suit jackets that: a) cover the knuckles and b) still have the designer label on the sleeve.
     
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  15. Claghorn

    Claghorn Well-Known Member

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    Brooks Brothers, long a stronghold of of the reasonably conservative, has embraced the too short jacket. End times, friends. End times.

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  16. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Well-Known Member

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    They've been doing this for a few years now. It's Thom Browne for Brooks Brothers "Black Fleece".
     
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  17. Bortelli

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    Nice Try
     
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  18. Dan e gee

    Dan e gee Well-Known Member

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    Don't tell John Malkovich :)
     
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  19. Dan e gee

    Dan e gee Well-Known Member

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    Oops your Royal Highness, pocket square with boutonniere.... and frayed shirt collar :)
     
  20. Bortelli

    Bortelli Well-Known Member

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    When someone try's to pull off a contrast collar dress shirt in a casual way
     
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