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Sartorial mythbusting

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by apropos, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Well-Known Member

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    Actually, there is nothing wrong with a "little" drape.
    Maybe we can agree on: A fine chest can take a "little" drape! [​IMG]
    Question: Did Edwin DeBoise ever explain the differences between his cut and that of actual A&S and alike? As far as I know he was not an apprentice at A&S like the others? I guess he has a more profound tailoring and cutting background...
    Your coats look a bit leaner than those of the others...


    Hmmm...you seem to have some insider knowledge.

    - B
     
  2. Sator

    Sator Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm...you seem to have some insider knowledge.

    - B


    SG's part of the tailoring brotherhood (secret handshake etc)
     
  3. tailorgod

    tailorgod Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm...you seem to have some insider knowledge.

    - B


    Let's just say it's part of my job to spot the differences...

    Hang on, there is a secret handshake?
     
  4. jefferyd

    jefferyd Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm...you seem to have some insider knowledge.

    - B


    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Nuff said.
     
  5. lasbar

    lasbar Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Nuff said.



    I was expected a full tailoring lecture with pictures and drawings a la FOO followed by 30 pages of on-going guerilla threads , death threats and insults.
     
  6. jefferyd

    jefferyd Well-Known Member

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    I was expected a full tailoring lecture with pictures and drawings a la FOO followed by 30 pages of on-going guerilla threads , death threats and insults.

    I don't make death threats.
     
  7. edmorel

    edmorel Well-Known Member

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    I was expected a full tailoring lecture with pictures and drawings a la FOO followed by 30 pages of on-going guerilla threads , death threats and insults.

    my chest hair causes tailors to give me drape unknowingly.

    ...
     
  8. lasbar

    lasbar Well-Known Member

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    I don't make death threats.

    You will struggle on Style Forum.

    Passive agressive behaviour are part of Style forum's social etiquette.
     
  9. jefferyd

    jefferyd Well-Known Member

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    You will struggle on Style Forum.

    Passive agressive behaviour are part of Style forum's social etiquette.


    I'm afraid farting in your general direction is about as coarse as I get.
     
  10. mmkn

    mmkn Well-Known Member

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    I'm afraid farting in your general direction is about as coarse as I get.

    That would be unnecessary roughness.

    - M
     
  11. S. Able

    S. Able Well-Known Member

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    Since this thread started with the subject of mythbusting, I'd like to do a little summary: [​IMG]

    1. Nino Corvato does not cut a drape coat!
    2. Some men care more about being liked by the MD of A&S than for the proper (in a tailor's view) fit of their garments.
    3. A hand sewn seam can be easily replaced by an equivalent machine version without any loss of durability or flexibility.
    4. A flexible shoulder seam has not really a direct impact on the overall comfort of the garment.
    5. A high armhole alone does not guarantee a decent looking, comfortable garment when the armhole(diameter) is as wide as a barn gate.
    6. A sleeve with additional length in the undersleeve provides a fuller range of movement, but will look messy.
    7. A bias cut canvas does not really serve a purpose other than being something to talk about.
    8. Some men should avoid loud patterned fabrics.
    9. As soon as somebody posts a picture of a beautiful woman the hetero members get distracted from the main subject.
    10. Speaking of beautiful people: A fine chest needs no drape!

    Feel free to add anything I have not covered.


    I would add

    11. Sample size should not be considered in reaching conclusions about the quality of a tailor and his work.
     
  12. George

    George Well-Known Member

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    I regret not being around to prevent Le Bannage du Wabbit.

    - B


    Unpreventable I'm afraid.
     
  13. Tomasso

    Tomasso Well-Known Member

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    I regret not being around to prevent Le Bannage du Wabbit.

    Yes, I'm worried about him too.



    [​IMG]
     
  14. emptym

    emptym Well-Known Member

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    I did have to laugh when both Vox and Iammatt when after him about his class obsession in the context, of all things, hopsack. That whole mini-thread of class, hopsack and garbage men was a jewell.
    Much of thread and this post in particular reminded me of this quote:
    Styleforum would be the good of order. Who is is which minority or class, I don't know. But the quote might have something to say about the various squabbles here, not just those involving FNB.
     
  15. Sator

    Sator Well-Known Member

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    As for sample size, consider this. Take a gun loaded with live bullets, put it to your head and blow your brains out. Now how many times does this have to be repeated before we accept the "null hypothesis" that firing a loaded gun into your head won't blow your brains out? A thousand times, a million times? With effects that are really gross, you don't need a large sample size. This is gross: [​IMG] Really gross.
     
  16. S. Able

    S. Able Well-Known Member

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    A little dramatic, no? Obviously that is gross, but if everything they made looked like that, they would have burned through their goodwill long ago. Last I looked, their doors are still opened.
     
  17. zalb916

    zalb916 Well-Known Member

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    Using your analogy, couldn't you just as easily show an example of a perfectly executed A&S and declare you don't need a large sample size? Or is it your contention that a perfectly executed A&S simply does not exist?
     
  18. Fuuma

    Fuuma Well-Known Member

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    Funny, I've never been to Vegas and meeting a group of English for the first time a few months ago, they thought I worked in the city in 2009.


    I doubt it, true homosexuals are usually very conservatively mannered, refined people. More likely you're one of those "guys" who think they're very hetero in spite of indulging in a weekly glory hole treat.

    Maybe you are even one of those persons on a message board who are emboldened because they think they have an unfair advantage of support from the mods, haven't the raisins to post in a place where they don't feel they have a lot of allies and still have the ability to call someone who does a coward?

    I'm just speculating, of course[​IMG]



    There are many negative things that can be said about me but that I cant be an asshole to someones face isnt one of them. Or is one of them, take your pick. As for the rest of your post, WTF!

    As for the glory hole I do it to pay the rent, beats being a suit.
     
  19. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Well-Known Member

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    Using your analogy, couldn't you just as easily show an example of a perfectly executed A&S and declare you don't need a large sample size? Or is it your contention that a perfectly executed A&S simply does not exist?

    It depends what your hypothesis is. If the hypothesis is "A&S are incapable of making a suit that fits" then it is probably false, but if the hypothesis is that "A&S will occasionally deliver (and charge full price for) a suit that most tailors would be embarrassed to even let out the front door", then the single picture above appears to prove that.
     
  20. tailorgod

    tailorgod Well-Known Member

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    It depends what your hypothesis is. If the hypothesis is "A&S are incapable of making a suit that fits" then it is probably false, but if the hypothesis is that "A&S will occasionally deliver (and charge full price for) a suit that most tailors would be embarrassed to even let out the front door", then the single picture above appears to prove that.

    Maybe one of the A&S customers, who thinks his suit is immaculate, could provide some pictures?
     

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