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Restaurants with Dress Codes: Take Back The Night!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Bounder, Jan 8, 2011.

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    A real gentleman wouldn't take his wife to a public place for this purpose in the first place.
    Only a coward would, probably because he's afraid of her whacking him with a frying pan at home.

    As a youth ... anytime I felt the need tell my father something that might cause him to become angry ... I made an appointment with him ... at his office. I knew he wouldn't kill me there.
     
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    I'm surprised that in this forum there are so many comments about how eating in a jacket and tie is uncomfortable. My bespoke dress clothes are far more comfortable than my RTW casual pieces because of their superior fabrics and fit. I'll always opt for a suit and tie to a nice restaurant or other appropriate venue.

    Amen
     
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    I'm surprised that in this forum there are so many comments about how eating in a jacket and tie is uncomfortable.
    I am as well. It's rare that I'm at table without a coat and tie ... even at home.
     
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    I mean Butcher, although I've been to Cochon as well and loved it. I like the vibe (and the pulled pork) at Butcher, and I like to take an andouille back to San Francisco with me. TSA doesn't freak out provided you put the sausage in the tray along with your shoes.

    Next time get some of that bacon. The kind you have to slice yourself that comes wrapped in plastic. It is f'ing sick. I cut it thick and make bacon steaks out of it.

    Mike
     
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    I am as well. It's rare that I'm at table without a coat and tie ... even at home.

    Even at home?
     
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    Even at home?
    Not at breakfast. At lunch more often that not. At dinner, almost always.
     
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    I am as well. It's rare that I'm at table without a coat and tie ... even at home.

    I think you're the exception today as far as regular dining is concerned, but I am surprised how many here are uncomfortable eating in a suit and tie. I do it every workday at lunch and my share of evenings as well. If your clothes fit reasonably well, they should be comfortable.
     
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    Next time get some of that bacon. The kind you have to slice yourself that comes wrapped in plastic. It is f'ing sick. I cut it thick and make bacon steaks out of it.

    Mike


    Thanks for the tip, will do...
     
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    I think you're the exception today as far as regular dining is concerned, but I am surprised how many here are uncomfortable eating in a suit and tie. I do it every workday at lunch and my share of evenings as well. If your clothes fit reasonably well, they should be comfortable.

    Definitely Mad Men-style. Nowadays people have such an aversion to dressing well or even looking presentable its pathetic.
     
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    What a snobbish thread. You people make me sick.
     
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    What a snobbish thread. You people make me sick.

    Yes but you secretly love it and keep looking at it... :)
     
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    What a snobbish thread. You people make me sick.

    Are you sure you joined the right forum? [​IMG]
     
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    well said [​IMG]

    congrats hermes man, this ^ is your first borderline intelligent post.

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    shifting to the op...i don't care what others wear as long as they dress well. problem with this in practice is that establishments attempt to implement with categorical filters like no sneakers, no jeans, and jacket required. which is ineffective at best. only policy of that sort I support is no shirt, no shoes, no service. my $.02
     
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    nvm / duplicate post
    see below
     
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    You guys make me look bad when I'm seated next to you and wearing my ratty old jeans.
    Now, isn't that what you really meant to say. [​IMG]

    As far as my dressing for dinner ... I've done it since childhood. I'm not sure how that is snobbish. I haven't changed in imitation of others ... and I don't do it to make you feel bad about yourself ... or to make you feel sick. I do it because I'm comfortable doing it. If you feel sick because of that ... that is YOUR problem.
     
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    I am happy to say that I wore a coat to breakfast the other day. With shorts and espadrilles, no less.

    But, this aside, I like the idea that there are places you can go, and count on some degree of formality or style. This said, I'm not sure a dress code is the way to enforce it - everyone has a tie somewhere, and unstylish people looking uncomfortable in ugly ties does not a classy joint make.
     
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    But, this aside, I like the idea that there are places you can go, and count on some degree of formality or style. This said, I'm not sure a dress code is the way to enforce it - everyone has a tie somewhere, and unstylish people looking uncomfortable in ugly ties does not a classy joint make.

    If you look at it a certain way, dressing well when you go to a restaurant creates a de facto dress code. Other patrons will certainly notice, and think about what they themselves are wearing and the impression they make, and maybe next time they will upgrade.
     
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    If you look at it a certain way, dressing well when you go to a restaurant creates a de facto dress code. Other patrons will certainly notice, and think about what they themselves are wearing and the impression they make, and maybe next time they will upgrade.
    No ... the dress will only continue to move in a more casual direction. This is why we now have dress codes at certain restaurants. After all, there was once a time when dress codes weren't needed ... people simply knew to dress. But there came a point in time this was no longer true.

    Of course, things are much more democratic today and that is good. There was also a time that certain classes -- no matter how they were dressed -- knew they were unwelcome at most fine restaurants.
     
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    I am happy to say that I wore a coat to breakfast the other day. With shorts and espadrilles, no less.

    But, this aside, I like the idea that there are places you can go, and count on some degree of formality or style. This said, I'm not sure a dress code is the way to enforce it - everyone has a tie somewhere, and unstylish people looking uncomfortable in ugly ties does not a classy joint make.


    To be honest, I disagree. The fact that 'unstylish people look uncomfortable in ugly ties' is a recent, and pathetic phenomenon. The establishment of a dress code is intended to create a simple benchmark for dress, especially for men. The more stylish may add flourishes or details which improve the look. The wealthier may opt for higher quality fabrics, designers, etc. There was however a time when your average middle class american male was quite capable of showing up in a suit and tie. Perhaps it wasn't saville row bespoke, perhaps it wasn't a handmade 7 fold tie, but he could show up and look _respectable_.

    Focusing _purely_ on style with no regard to 'appropriateness' is not democratizing, in fact I'd say it tends to lead to the opposite. Where the requirement of a 'suit' is realizable by most people, I'd say that many trendy places have now moved in a new direction - utterly any expensive outfit is deemed good. $400 jeans = no problem. I realize 'style' can be had at moderate expense by some, but for most people, we've dumped formality at the expense of pure brand whoring.
     
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    Focusing _purely_ on style with no regard to 'appropriateness' is not democratizing, in fact I'd say it tends to lead to the opposite. Where the requirement of a 'suit' is realizable by most people, I'd say that many trendy places have now moved in a new direction - utterly any expensive outfit is deemed good. $400 jeans = no problem. I realize 'style' can be had at moderate expense by some, but for most people, we've dumped formality at the expense of pure brand whoring.
    I'm proud to say I don't own a pair of $400 jeans ... nor $200 ... nor $100. While my suits are bespoken on Savile Row ... my jeans are of the simple variety ... intended to hold-up while laboring.

    What is brand whoring? If one has no designer labels in his wardrobe ... does that mean he is free of this charge?
     

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