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Refusal to sell...

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by TyCooN, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. snuff_daddy

    snuff_daddy Well-Known Member

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    ive sold a lot of things on various forums..only had one problem so far..but it was a major pain in the ass

    i have a question about receiving paypal gift payments...i heard they arent safe either
    i read on another site that someone accepted the funds...shipped the item...then the buyer either closed their bank account or had their bank block the transaction

    so the seller lost their money...is that possible? i always get offered paypal gift payments but because of that im very wary
     
  2. KitAkira

    KitAkira Well-Known Member

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    Money's money. As long as the reason I don't like them is something to do with their trustworthiness, doesn't matter to me
     
  3. trig

    trig Well-Known Member

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    ive sold a lot of things on various forums..only had one problem so far..but it was a major pain in the ass

    i have a question about receiving paypal gift payments...i heard they arent safe either
    i read on another site that someone accepted the funds...shipped the item...then the buyer either closed their bank account or had their bank block the transaction

    so the seller lost their money...is that possible? i always get offered paypal gift payments but because of that im very wary


    hmmm that doesn't really make sense to me since technically don't you just wait for payment to be in your paypal acct before shipping it off. either way don't do gifts. just make sure the fees are paid for using ppcalc.com. so then the whole paypal transaction dispute is still an option.
     
  4. wahwho11

    wahwho11 Well-Known Member

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    fuck sending payments as gifts unless you absolutely trust them. paypal isn't going to help when you're trying to burn them pyapal fees(though they do suck, still). yes, i do not trust hypebeats
     
  5. socialdtk

    socialdtk Well-Known Member

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    I've never refused to sell to anyone but I wish I had. A few months ago I was giving away a MJK fannel shirt through B/S. The person who took it happened to be from Canada and sent me $10 to cover the shipping. Shipping ended up costing $20, the shirt didn't make it through customs and was returned to me 2 weeks after I shipped it. I tried sending it again and the same thing happened. The whole ordeal ended up costing me $30 and I still have the shirt... So if anyone is interested in a medium MJK brown flannel button up let me know.
     
  6. snuff_daddy

    snuff_daddy Well-Known Member

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    but its safe to accept paypal gift payments right? they cant easily dispute it with their banks?
     
  7. the shah

    the shah Well-Known Member

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    can if its a visa cc
     
  8. g transistor

    g transistor Well-Known Member

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    I've never refused, but I'm more wary of international shipping now. It just gets really annoying.

    I do let people have some time to ship it though, because I understand that sometimes life just gets a bit too hectic. For myself, sometimes I ship stuff next day or sometimes it takes me a week, it really depends on my schedule at school and how soon I can get home. I always, always try to let the buyer know what's going on though, I'd hate to be left hanging like that.
     
  9. Listi

    Listi Well-Known Member

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    I've never refused to sell to anyone but I wish I had. A few months ago I was giving away a MJK fannel shirt through B/S. The person who took it happened to be from Canada and sent me $10 to cover the shipping. Shipping ended up costing $20, the shirt didn't make it through customs and was returned to me 2 weeks after I shipped it. I tried sending it again and the same thing happened. The whole ordeal ended up costing me $30 and I still have the shirt... So if anyone is interested in a medium MJK brown flannel button up let me know.

    I'm interested... but I live in Canada...

    haha just kidding[​IMG] not my size.
     
  10. mikey34

    mikey34 Well-Known Member

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    want to all the time when selling. you offer a low price, they want lower. offer free ground shipping, they want next day air. you ask them to pay the fees, they don't because it costs them (duhhhhh that's why I asked). It's never enough to make the majority of buyers happy. I mean if I'm spending $100's on an item, I'm not trying to get over someone a few bucks with fees or something.
     
  11. pitboss12

    pitboss12 Well-Known Member

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    after being ripped off so many times with paypal transactions, I'm really cautious with new users and international buyers. sorry, just a fact of life.

    If I get a buyer with a post count under 120, I get a little nervous.
     
  12. holymadness

    holymadness Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but what's the problem with international buyers? I've sold things to Americans, Canadians, Australians and Norwegians without any problems. Never had any issues buying from the UK or the USA, either.

    Someone care to explain?
     
  13. Asch

    Asch Well-Known Member

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    I've never had to refuse to sell to anyone, but it's remarkable how easy it is to tell from an initial PM whether a potential buyer is serious and will follow through on the transaction or will ask you 20 questions and then disappear forever.
     
  14. Racing Green

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    I'm sorry, but what's the problem with international buyers? I've sold things to Americans, Canadians, Australians and Norwegians without any problems. Never had any issues buying from the UK or the USA, either.

    Someone care to explain?


    Don't get it either. I buy and sell all the time on Ebay and being from a small country I nearly always end up dealing with international buyers and sellers. Never had a problem.

    On Ebay it always seems to be US sellers who won't ship internationally. Never understood it apart from putting it down to American insularism.
     
  15. pronxs

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    I'm sorry, but what's the problem with international buyers? I've sold things to Americans, Canadians, Australians and Norwegians without any problems. Never had any issues buying from the UK or the USA, either.

    Someone care to explain?


    Don't get it either. I buy and sell all the time on Ebay and being from a small country I nearly always end up dealing with international buyers and sellers. Never had a problem.

    On Ebay it always seems to be US sellers who won't ship internationally. Never understood it apart from putting it down to American insularism.


    +1, +1

    and i think the feedback thread must be utilized more often.
     
  16. CharlieAngel

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    Don't get it either. I buy and sell all the time on Ebay and being from a small country I nearly always end up dealing with international buyers and sellers. Never had a problem.

    On Ebay it always seems to be US sellers who won't ship internationally. Never understood it apart from putting it down to American insularism.


    Can't speak for anyone else, but just shipping a pair of shorts to HK meant another 15 minutes of paperwork, labeling, etc etc. It's a pain in the ass and why bother with it if someone "domestic" wants it that doesn't require the extra work? It could also be that with repetition comes familiarity and it gets less pain in the assy, but until then, I'd rather not deal with it.

    Also, due to many many many Americans being targeted by Nigerian scammers, it's not worth the risk for a lot of them.
     
  17. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    As a seller, international shipping is frustrating because it's so expensive. People don't want to pay the price for the shipping with insurance, and I'm not about to send a pricey item overseas without insurance. Can't tell you how many people have backed out on a sale after they found out how much shipping would be.

    Also, international shipping requires waiting in line at the post office. That has to be done during business hours and can take an hour or more, if I arrive at a bad time. Domestic stuff I can drop off 24 hours a day, no waiting.
     
  18. shoreman1782

    shoreman1782 Well-Known Member

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    I ship everything domestically via USPS priority, it's easiest and cheapest and reasonably reliable and fast. I offer free domestic shipping whenever I sell anything that's not crazy heavy, and I have a handle on the rates, based mostly on using the USPS flat rate shipping containers (which also save me money on supplies).

    If I want to ship something abroad, USPS becomes slightly less reliable and slower than UPS/Fedex and the expense of shipping can vary a lot.

    Were I a high-volume seller, I would have supplies on hand and have a better feel for rates, shipping times, best service to use, etc., but as an occasional seller it's VASTLY easier for me to just ship domestic unless the buyer is really interested/accomodating.
     
  19. wttm

    wttm Well-Known Member

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    Seems like a lot of people are having problems with Canadians as a buyer/seller.
    Sucks for us Canadians that never had a problem *touch wood* making our brethren down south leery of any potential cross border transactions.
     
  20. ppllzz

    ppllzz Well-Known Member

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    you know you can print out priority international shipping labels from paypal... and then you take it to a post office (along with hte package) and they'll stuff the label into a little slip and slap it on. i print domestic labels too, but i need to tape those on myself ><
     

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