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Recommendations for first suit

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jhwendland, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. jhwendland

    jhwendland Well-Known Member

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    Recent graduate looking for an appropriate suit for interviews and employment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    Look around the internet and get a good baseline idea of HOW A SUIT SHOULD FIT. There are plenty of threads here that will give you bits and pieces of useful info.

    Once you've got an idea of how you want the suit to fit, go into some local stores and try on suits to get an idea of what sizes fit the best and what areas of the suits don't fit quite right (shoulders, chest, waist, thighs, etc). Once you've done that, you can start to look into products that don't have the fit issues that you noted.

    People here can guide you more after you've started to do those things. You have to do some work. If you don't do those things, then you'll just get a lot of random, hit or miss opinions, and you'll probably end up wasting money on a low value suit that doesn't fit.
     
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  3. MartiniGirl

    MartiniGirl Well-Known Member

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    ^^ Once you've done what VinnyMac told you to do, look into the MarketPlace (featured above). Members are selling some amazing clothes for a great deal! Just get your measurements first! Good luck!
     
  4. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    There are a million threads on here, but I'll just leave you this to get started:

    Features
    * Go with a solid staple color, my order of preference: navy, charcoal, medium gray
    * 2-button
    * Notch lapel
    * Avoid functional button cuffs to save money tailoring
    * Both center and side vents in the rear are fine

    Fit
    * Most important: Shoulders should not extend past your natural shoulders
    * Jacket length should land about at the knuckle of your thumb
    * With top button only buttoned, should be snug but not tight. Keep sizing down until you get the "X", and then go back up a size.
    * Armholes: Lift up your arms - you shouldn't see giant wing-like things underneath them.

    All of the other details are nit-pickier stylish things that most people won't care about. The other thing you'll have to consider is the quality of the suit. You basically have a few ranges:

    $200-$300 range: These will be fused (glued) suits. Basically a starter/throwaway suit. If you have the money, consider going up to the next level to try to buy a "suit for life". The other downside is fabrics here tend to not be as nice. From what I've read some decent slim options are the Bar III suit at Macy's and the JCrew Factory Thompson suit.

    $300-$400 range: Some JCrew options here that are decent and half-canvassed instead of fused

    $500-$600 range: Good options here are Brooks Brothers 1818 line (fitzgerald, milano) , half canvassed, or something like the Benjamin suit which is fully canvassed. Fabric will be better quality like super 120's, 130's, etc.

    $600+ Probably not what you're looking for, but you'll get better little details.
     
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  5. GBR

    GBR Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried a little research here - we really do not need yet another thread on this exact topic. It does destroy one's confidence in those graduating that no 'search' is done at all.
     
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  6. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Well-Known Member

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  8. jhwendland

    jhwendland Well-Known Member

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    Looks like I shouldn't have assumed followers of such an egoist pursuit were capable of altruism.

    And sorry I'm not up-to-speed on all the punctilios of styleforum.net.

    Sincere apologies,
    Inept, indolent student
     
  9. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    Altruism and babysitting/hand-holding are different things. It seems like you're looking for the latter. This same, exact thread pops up every few months. If you did a search you'd know that.
     
  10. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Well-Known Member

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    Check suitsupply - get something charcoal or navy, you can get good stuff for under $500 and they offer free returns. You feed in some basic measurements and they will tell you what size you need to help you get started.
     
  11. jhwendland

    jhwendland Well-Known Member

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    I was aware of the fact that the subject has been broached in the past. I am now also aware of the fact that you're a presumptuous dick. By the way, in animadverting upon my apparently asinine question, you've accomplished nothing but bring greater attention to a thread you find superfluous.
     
  12. Stiva

    Stiva Well-Known Member

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    Although to VM's credit, his first post in this thread was uncharacteristically helpful and quite gentle.
     
  13. tailorsuits

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    some question ...Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  14. Saturdays

    Saturdays Well-Known Member

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    I thought our new collective answer was 'Suit Supply' for everyone that asks this question.
     
  15. TM79

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    Funny enough, a new one just popped up a few moments go. So there you have it.

    Search feature: good.

    Asking redundant questions which will either be ignored or yield salty replies from long standing members: not good.
     
  16. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Well-Known Member

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    No fair - I was posting about SuitSupply before it was cool back in 2009 - then everyone jumped on the bandwagon and ruined it - like Kanye West, Coldplay, and Brooklyn... I think I just became a hipster. :embar:
     
  17. AriGold

    AriGold Well-Known Member

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    Features
    * Go with a solid staple color, my order of preference: navy, navy, navy and medium grey.
    * 2-button or 3 roll 2 are fine.
    * Notch lapel
    * Functional button cuffs are a very nice detail - only if the sleeve lengths are spot on. Otherwise it becomes a hassle to tailor and you should buy one without functional cuffs.
    * Both center and side vents in the rear are fine, although center vents are less common these days.

    Fit
    * Most important: Shoulders should not extend past your natural shoulders. This is the most important element in terms of fit.
    * Jacket length should land about at the knuckle of your thumb
    * With top button only buttoned, should be snug but not tight. Keep sizing down until you get the "X", and then go back up a size.
    * Armholes: Lift up your arms - you shouldn't see giant wing-like things underneath them.

    All of the other details are nit-pickier stylish things that most people won't care about. The other thing you'll have to consider is the quality of the suit. You basically have a few ranges:

    $200-$300 range: These will be fused (glued) suits. Basically a starter/throwaway suit. If you have the money, consider going up to the next level to try to buy a "suit for life". The other downside is fabrics here tend to not be as nice. From what I've read some decent slim options are the Bar III suit at Macy's and the JCrew Factory Thompson suit.

    $300-$400 range: Some JCrew options here that are decent and half-canvassed instead of fused

    $500-$600 range: Good options here are Suit Supply, Brooks Brothers 1818 line (fitzgerald, milano) , half canvassed, or something like the Benjamin suit which is fully canvassed. Fabric will be better quality like super 120's, 130's, etc. At this price range you can also get some real solid quality during sales, such as Polo, Ralph Lauren black label.

    $600+ Probably not what you're looking for, but you'll get better little details.
     
  18. jhwendland

    jhwendland Well-Known Member

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    I don't know much about suits, but I do know a jacket shouldn't land at the knuckle of your thumb.
     
  19. msulinski

    msulinski Well-Known Member

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    Really? Where should it be? The thumb knuckle isn't a hard and fast rule, but it is a good approximation. If your arm length is proportional to your body, it is about right. To clarify (if there is any confusion) the thumb knuckle refers to the last joint of the thumb, not the base where the thumb meets the hand

    I have disproportionately short arms, so I usually like my jackets to end at the tip of my thumb.
     
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  20. Snaporaz

    Snaporaz Active Member

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    Are you thinking the jacket should be much shorter? As a rough guide, the thumb knuckle is a good one. Don't make the mistake of buying a Thom Browne style suit for interviews!
     

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