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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. Gruff

    Gruff Well-Known Member

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    My background is 1 year of Western boxing and 4 years and counting of a silat style with Chinese influences (or a Chinese style with silat influences, depending on who you ask). Western boxing was fun but I moved away from it to focus on the other style because I liked the broader universe of techniques beyond just a punch in the face. I have no idea what style that cop was using but a few of the techniques looked similar to what I train.

    You mentioned KM and what you're describing sounds like the emphasis that my teacher places on an approach to violence, i.e. strike hard and fast, do as much damage as possible and gtfo. We're taught to never stand and bang. That's not self-defense, that's fighting and when the cops show up, everybody goes to jail. Every situation should be over and done in no more than 3-5 seconds if possible.

    To turn this back to fitness, people were talking about Brad Pitt in Fight Club. To my mind, that's the optimal look for combat. Light and lean (IIRC correctly, Brad was maybe 155 lbs in that movie). No heavy bulk to move around, fast hands, etc. At that point it becomes a matter of technique versus raw power, and if you train right and know your stuff, the technique can beat raw power.

    And at the end of the day, Eason is right, that cop would have vanishingly few situations where he needs to be Action Hero like that. If you think about it, standard cop doctrine around the world is to roll in packs of at least 2: one guy to engage while the other calls for backup if necessary. They'd use guns for self-defense as a first resort, not fists and feet.* That video, while fun to watch, is basically just for promotional purposes.

    Which is all to say, keep martial arts in perspective - they're fun but they don't make you invincible. Find a style you like and train the hell out of it, all styles are pretty much the same when you're high level (it's kinda Zen). Check out www.wimsblog.com for a blog from a practicing martial artist, a Dutch guy who posts a lot about not only specific training techniques about also the philosophy of violence. The philosophy is just as fascinating as the techniques - he'll sometimes select Youtube vids of random street fights and break them down into bullet points, showing you the pros and cons of the action, what people could have done right, what they did wrong, etc.

    *Fists and Feet: Probably showing my American bias here in this claim. We're used to cops shooting people as a first resort, not last. Maybe the Chinese cop would be a little less inclined to draw his piece on any given day.
     
  2. Cool The Kid

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    My Blendtec is a god damn life changer :slayer:

    Next stops..... standalone freezer, vacuum sealer, and hopefully for Xmas a sous vide oven. Then ze cypher will be complete!!!
     
  3. OccultaVexillum

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    Have not done shit in weeks. I sleep like 1hr/day now. Second kid is brutal. I need somebody to inject cocaine directly to my balls so maybe I have some life in me.
     
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    For me, second kid was hard until about 3 months. Then, second kid was easy until about 18 months. Then, brutal until about 2.5

    But, my kids are only 23 months apart - I think you've got more age separation so hopefullly a bit easier.
     
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    Sleep is the main thing I am afraid of with kids. If I don't get good sleep I am a truly miserable fuck. Sleep is a big part of why I quit my job and left NYC w/nothing lined up down here.
     
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    I have two kids who are just wired not to sleep. It was brutal beyond imagination for the first year. But, it passed, and even though both of them wake up at 6am every morning now, it's worth it.
     
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    Yeah I'm terrified about the sleep thing. Realistically, kids are about 3 years out, but.. ugh. Nephews are staying with us this week and they all decided to wake up at 4:30 today and it's bad enough for one day, I can't imagine that being my waking life for years at a time.

    Sleep deprivation was the worst thing in the army. 48 hours in and I started seeing Coke machines on wagons coming out of the fog (0).
     
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    Yeah I mean he's not even 3 weeks old yet, my first done was just so easy. He was sleeping 6-10 hours by 2 weeks. Knew baby just won't go nore than 45 mins at a time.
     
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    Been there. My oldest wouldn't sleep for more than 20 minutes during the day. Night sleep was 4 hour increments
     
  10. barrelntrigger

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    I would love to train in silat. The cop was using San shou or San da which is a mixed system developed in the 70's by the Chinese government for military training. There is also a sport version of it which Kung le started his fight career in. Most Chinese cops don't carry guns in their daily duties so they would have to physically subdue suspects. It is during special circumstances they use guns.
     
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    Yeah. New baby seems to sleep a lot better in the day (1.5-2 hours). But I can't sleep then because I'm taking care of our 4 year old and studying. As soon as night rolls around he's just on his grumpy shit until sun up.
    I don't even know of all my crazy spelling is iPhone cluster fucks or sleep deprivation.
     
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    If you're in a major urban area, maybe you could look around for a pentjak silat school. Pentjak silat is an umbrella term for a group of Indonesian-born silat styles and you can check out some Youtube videos to get a sense of what it looks like. Pentjak silat is akin to saying "kung fu" in Chinese, in that there are about 150 different styles under the term and you'll need to find a particular style that suits you - some emphasize punches, others kicks, some are heavy into low stance and ground fighting, others focus on bladed weapons, etc. I encourage you to check it out if you're really inclined.

    With respect to Chinese cops, I visited Shanghai and Beijing in January of this year. I didn't notice whether or not the street cops carried guns. I did notice groups of soldier looking type guys who would randomly show up in camos and carrying assault rifles, and they'd just...guard things. Like on the corner block or a random street. It wasn't even Tianamen Square or other sensitive areas, so I didn't know what they were supposed to be guarding. It was odd.
     
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    Those are mostly likely to be military police, not sure if the right term but close enough...They are a level below special police which usually wear all black uniforms.
     
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    What's the best meal timing for working out later in the evening? Like finishing working out around 9:30PM. I usually like having a big meal post working out but doesn't seem like it would make sense to consume few hundred grams of carbs then go to sleep an hour or so later.
     
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    A Chinese cop in uniform is there to pay lip service to security. They are generally kids who don't know what they fuck they're doing. A step above 保安 (security). I've seen them turn away and pretend they couldn't see man smashing his wife's face into the pavement. Useless cowards. The "real" Chinese cops don't wear uniforms; they are plain clothes. And they don't give a fuck about crime either-- they exist to bundle away threats to "public order" like protesters and petitioners.

    Let me give some examples of crime and the Chinese police response:

    Gang of youths beating a couple unconscious in a crowded street: none. Uniforms will show up once they are sure all danger is gone.
    Man with a knife killing random bystanders with a knife in a crowded street: Special response team (with guns) shows up after everyone is dead. Plainclothes police cover/confiscate journalists' cameras.
    Low-level protest regarding local corruption or extreme pollution/land grabs: plain-clothes police and hired thugs snatch the targets up and take them into a van, hired thugs harass any journalists present and block them from filming. There will be perhaps one uniformed cop there to provide a semblance of "rule of law"
    "mass incident" (riot): Armored riot police w/ teargas, batons, and less-lethal ammunition. Complete media blackout mandated from the top-down to stop media coverage or any reference to incident.
     
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    Does seem like that would be a problem at all to me.
    I would personally hold off on carbs for most of the day then have a decent amount pre-during-post. But all in all I don't think it's a huge deal, if you train at night then eat carbs at night, maybe not a "few hundred" but you know.
     
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    well damn.
     
  18. barrelntrigger

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    I'm inclined to believe this. How do you know so much about Chinese affairs? I know you've been living in Bangkok. Have you spend a considerable amount of time in China, too?
     
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    I lived in China for 3 years, then Hong Kong for 3.5 where i was politically active. I'm reasonably fluent in their moon-language.
     
  20. Gruff

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    Thanks for this, that's pretty interesting.

    For better or worse, I did feel like Shanghai and Beijing were fairly safe places, but probably because like most tourists I wasn't in the bad parts. That being said, China seems to suck on most levels. Shanghai was nice but Beijing was a shithole. And don't get me started on the people. I didn't experience any negative interactions beyond blatant stares at my Caucasian-ness but their hygenic habits, Christ, just godawful.

    On the other hand, I visited Taiwan in winter of 2014 and it's an amazing place, like someone distilled the best parts of Chinese culture and put it on the island. Beautiful place, wonderful people, amazing food, everything clean and well maintained. In my opinion it'll be a true world tragedy if/when the mainland regains control over Taiwan and inevitably fucks it all up.

    To tie into fitness, stayed at the St Regis Beijing and was at least able to lift while I was there. They've got a pretty nice gym and the Chinese female spa workers there told me I was beautiful haha #noiwontmarryyousoyoucanimmigratetoamerica
     
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