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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. conceptionist

    conceptionist Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea really, other than that false grip can be very dangerous if you're not experienced. If you want to do it, make sure you set the safety pins.

    Some people feel stronger with the fakse grip. I don't know why.


    False grip means that you don't wrap the thumb.

    Reverse grip also just sounds dangerous to me. Set the safety pins and try at your own risk.

    Retract shoulder blades and arch to save the shoulders when you bench. Also very important to not flare the elbows out like a bro-BB-bench. Arms should be somewhat tucked so the bar hits lower chest to upper abs.
     
  2. ridethecliche

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    Yeah, I do stuff for reps not maxes for that stuff. I'd probably do 5x10 with a max around 135 which is 50+lbs less than I can bench reg.

    Also a good time to potentially use a smith machine.

    /me hides.

    Edit: Scratch that. I think my first shoulder injury was from the form one of those forced me into.
     
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  3. fuji

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    quite like reverse grio bench. always have a spotter fully unrack the bar for me and follow the bar completely.If the bar falls out of the groove at all it can get messy fast.
     
  4. TeeKay

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    Brahs over the past week I've done nothing but give epidural steroid injections all day errday so I can give them to you guys when you snap your shit up. I do it because I care.

    Cash only.
     
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  5. Coldsnap

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    Bunch of back problem people? Sucks to be them
     
  6. I<3Bacon

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    Not natty. 3 IPF red lights
     
  7. OccultaVexillum

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    I do all barbell push movements with a false grip because I feel stronger on it, but more importantly, I feel like it's safer for your elbows/shoulders/wrists as your arms aren't as rigid, if that makes sense. Basically it helps me tuck my elbows easier and just feels better.
     
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  9. Cool The Kid

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    IDK man. Already replaced front teeth. And that would be getting off easy dropping 250lbs on my face. Plus you want as much rigidity as possible through the chain IMO... any weak link = less force transferred.
     
  10. Cool The Kid

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    Speaking of bench... why do I have no problem doing 6x235, but get killed by 4x245? Based on 1RM theory I should be good for 250-255 for 4 reps no problem.
     
  11. OccultaVexillum

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    I don't mean rigid as in "tight", I mean when I bench I have my elbows semi-tucked (somewhere between flared bb style and tucked pl style) and using a false grip makes that feel a lot more natural and seems to take the shoulder out of that pinned, rigid position, at least for me.
    In terms of staying tight false grip helps with that because it feels more comfortable. Also I don't bench over my face, if I did drop it it would land on my chest, and it's not going to be straight drop from full lock out cos I don't bench like an idiot. Honestly I don't know how you could drop it with a false grip, it's not like it's just floating around it's still a secure grip.
     
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  12. Cool The Kid

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    And once it lands on your chest it will break some ribs, and/or roll onto your neck. Even better.

    And no its not a secure grip. Well, at least not as secure as a regular grip. We have thumbs for a reason
     
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  13. OccultaVexillum

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    OK, well if I drop it I'll let you know.
    But I don't see it happening, and if it does I don't see it being a catastrophe like you make it out to be. Yeah it will hurt, but I can't see broken bones/teeth happening.
    Pretty sure Wendler benches with a false grip, so there's precedent for big guys who know wtf they're doing to use it.
     
  14. Cool The Kid

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    Its your life dude. Just seems like excessively unnecessary risk for little to no reward. Pretty much the only upside to benching with a suicide grip is to be able to say "i bench with a suicide grip". The mental block is easy to overcome... I overhauled my bench form this year from BB to more PL and I like it. If the shit drops on you you prob wont be able to come tell us about it. And Wendler is one dude... plenty of lifters bench big with regular grips, and PL federations either DQ suicide grips or make you sign a waiver. Gee I wonder why.
     
  15. fuji

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    just bench in a cage with a decent arch and you'll be fine.
     
  16. conceptionist

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    I actually did OHP with a thumbless grip for a very long time. Felt more natural.
    That's prob at least as dangerous as doing it for bench press.

    Worked fine for me anyway and will prob do so for anyone who is experienced with it.
     
  17. OccultaVexillum

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    Yeah man, I get what you are saying. I could hurt myself. I could hurt myself doing a lot of stuff. Lifting weights is a risk full stop, I don't think using a false grip is any more dangerous than a back squat or deadlift.
    I am not a PLer, I lift predominately in the 4-12 range. Most of my BB bench work is 5-8 reps. I'm not putting up 400 pounds in these rep ranges.
    I lift with a false grip because it is more comfortable and I feel "Stronger" on it, that's all. I do my CG benching and fat bar benching with a full/traditional grip because those lifts feel better, but in terms of regular flat and incline with a bb the false grip just feels infinitely better.
    I've never even heard it called a suicide before.

    EDIT: I'm also going to stop talking about it now because I feel like I always get into these conversations that can come across as "arguments" and it's not my intention or desire.
     
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  18. OccultaVexillum

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    So for you guys who drink some kind of peri shake/concoction, what is your go to?
    Some of you guys mentioned gatorade and whey iso (Coldsnap I think?).
    I'm about to run out of the stuff I've been using since last November, works well but is too expensive now so I'm looking for something else.
    Anybody else?
     
  19. GraphicNovelty

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    Got laid off :( Decent severence though :) wish my knee wasn't arsed or else i'd use this time to train a bit more.
     
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    used to eat kinder beunos in the gym. No better feel then having some fat guy look at you confused as fuck thinking how are you so lean as you deadlift surrounded by 4 kinder bueno wrappers. Occasionally peanut butter kit kats or toffee crisps if feeling less decadent.
     

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