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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. VLSI

    VLSI Well-Known Member

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    What now what?

    Anyone else following the Genova self implosion? :lurk:



    Talk shit about people with family members.
     
  2. msg

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    All the dudes in concept's vid look like they're 6'4. They grow them big up there.
     
  3. Coldsnap

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    Trying to find a gym next to my new place. Went to the YMCA and was asked to stop when I was repping out 315 deads. Found an awesome gym thats a quick bike ride away but it looks like its mainly for olympic lifters who are especially weak. Watched their training videos and good lord.
     
  4. conceptionist

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    Thanks guys!


    Most guys were between 6" and 6.4" with a bodyweight of 190-230 lbs.

    For the next meet in Nov, I'm aiming to be in the upper limit of the -205 class, so roughly 10 pounds to gain until then. After that I'll go up to the -230 class.

    I think just putting 10 pounds of bodyweight on, fixing some techique errors and doing a proper meet prep training cycle will do a lot for the numbers. My training cycle was very volume heavy and light on the weights up until just last week. With a longer strength realization phase I might have gotten another 30-50 pounds on the total. Still very happy of course.
     
  5. TehBunny

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    Great job Concept! Just realised how fucking tall you're and I whole heartedly agree on the comments that where thrown around some months ago about you getting on dat dere and becoming an Ice Giant!
     
  6. conceptionist

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    Thanks!

    All PL clubs and competitions in Sweden are part of IPF.
    IPF have a very hard drug regulations and testing. PL in general is the most tested sport here just shy of soccer and hockey.

    A positive result for performance enhancing drugs (just in training) results in a lifetime ban from competing and no club will accept you as a member again. You will also get a 1500 USD fine to your club and the club you're training for will be placed further down in the national rankings, so every lifter in your club will be penalized for your fault. Its even punishable to test positive for non-performance enhancing drugs (such as marijuana) in competition, although not in training.

    No one got tested at the last competition, but they will do at nationals.

    I get what you mean, but I personally don't want to take the risk or even use drugs to get better performance (and looks, hehe).
     
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    Unless you get tested in training, which I'm guessing you don't since drug testing costs shjt loads and it would be insane to drug test everyone in every club then there's not really all that much purpose to drug test at competitions
     
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    Sweden sounds like a drag. In New York people just hand you drugs for free and pop champagne bottles mid set. Living in New York is like a full time biggie video with power racks everywhere.
     
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  9. TehBunny

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    Concept- Was just joking around; I know you're into drug-tested PL and I was more talking on the lines of Thor Bjornnson and Strongman [​IMG]
     
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  10. Coldsnap

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    Bro i was talking like 300lbs!
     
  11. conceptionist

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    They actually do show up randomly at clubs and take test every now and then. I don't know how often they've been at the club where I train but there's certainly been 10+ random tests at clubs around the country. Of course not everyone will be tested on those occasions.

    I believe everyone is tested at nationals, but I could be wrong.

    I just have no desire to do it since I don't think I need it to reach my current goal and no one I know and train with uses it.

    Lol, yeah you're right.
    Its a bit naive to think that drug tested feds wouldn't be strict, no matter what country you're in. That's not really what I meant although I can see it came across like that.
    A lot of competetive lifters in the IPF do get caught though. The whole Russian team was excluded a couple years back. That doesn't mean that everyone who is on will get caught, they just take it seriously and the punishments are harsh. It could be the same in the American feds. I haven't read their drug policy.


     
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  12. Coldsnap

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    What do you guys think, I've found that the rep scheme of 15, 12, 10, 8, 15 is a bit too much on the cardio side for the big three, that was my bodybuilding. Thinking of doing 12, 10, 8, 6, 12..
     
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    What percentages for these reps?
     
  14. conceptionist

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    A certain amount of reps in a set is important for hypertrophy, but overall volume is more important. With the compounds, I'd rather do more sets with fewer reps. You get more setup practices and your IME, technique will in most cases be better with fewer reps, while I can also train at a higher percentage.

    For the compounds, hypertrophy work to me means 5x5 at 75-80%, 5x10 or 10x5 at 50-60% and everything in between. 6x6 at around 70% used in Smolov.

    Most people seem to agree on that at least 25-30 total reps should be done if hypertrophy is the goal. I would not do more than 10 reps per set for the compounds regularly. An all out set of 20 or more can be good for specific purposes. Like all these things it depends on the how the whole program is laid out.
     
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    Gotcha, yea seems like research supports that overall volume is the biggest factor and rep scheme is just whichever one prefers.


    I don't go by percentages anymore, just 1 rep under failure for the day.
     
  16. Cool The Kid

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    IDK I dont like to pyramid. Hard to track progress
     
  17. conceptionist

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    Yeah.
    I can't quote any studies right now but there's a good amount of stuff out there that supports it.
    Even if volume is more important than high vs low reps per, you should still do a certain amount of reps per set to get the most hypertrophy (is this called "metabolic stress"? not sure...).
    I don't think 10 sets of 3 is the same as 3 sets of 10, even though volume is constant. The reason the effect is different is largely because Time Under Tension is greater in 3x10. 10x3, on the other hand, might be better for strength purposes.

    You should watch this if you haven't.
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  18. jarude

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    ran 10k today in one hour and it felt... good? i dunno wtf is going on, strange feels brahs.
     
  19. TeeKay

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    Hollllyyyy shit that Elliot Rodger phaggot posted on the misc
     
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  20. fuji

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    Such a classic miscer hating women and not looking like he lifted.
     
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