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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. Van Veen

    Van Veen Well-Known Member

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    My liquor cabinet now has more supplements in it than liquor.
     
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  2. Coldsnap

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    TKJTG since you gonna be a ortho whats your view on NSAIDs use for gym bros? I usually don't take them unless I am in extreme pain but sometimes I wonder when I tweak stuff If I should incorporate 3-4 days of NSAIDs to keep inflammation down. Like last night I woke up with unbearable arm pain, scale of 1-10 it was an 11, took 325mg of Aspirin and good lord did I feel like 1,000$$ went right back to sleep in blissfully.

    Dude in my gym takes 2 aspirin before every work out. My old olympic lifting coach would take aspirin pre and post workout. I could see it being a problem by masking pain from bad mechanics that needs to be addressed and I've read studies that it actually leaves you more inflamed than not taking it.
     
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  3. jarude

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    last I read nsaids ate up ur gainzz
     
  4. Coldsnap

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    I heard dat too. I want to keep my gainz. This is my last week of high volume squats so the pain should be gone. Interesting enough two other guys who are competing with me arms are hurting from squats, just it's just a result of high volume squatting getting ready for a meet.
     
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    having been on about sixfold the dosage CS mentioned (ibuprofen) for a good 4 weeks i can definitely say they mess with your training a lot. fucking super exhausted all the time.
     
  7. TeeKay

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    There's no conclusion out there on NSAIDs and muscle growth.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16672835
    ^This is the study that frequently gets quoted when it comes to this issue. My first thoughts are -- 1. these are in mice, not humans, and 2. the study was over 2 weeks, and 3. the equivalent doses for a human would be very high. Not sure how applicable it is to us. There's some bench-based evidence that it might interfere with protein synthesis. But, this isn't a slamdunk on NSAIDs. In fact, there's a couple studies out there that suggest the opposite effect:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23220477

    ^In this one, grandpas made all kindzzzzz of gains. This obviously has some limitations being in older adults rather than athletes.

    In practice, we frequently prescribe NSAIDs for musculoskeletal pain and nobody seems to be worried about the potential effects on muscle growth.

    As with every medicine, take them in moderation. Taking them once in a while for bad pain is obviously fine(as was in your situation). It's the folks who take them daily for DOMS who might run into trouble. I certainly wouldn't ban NSAIDs from my medicine cabinet.
     
  8. gort

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    Just took 800mg ibuprofen. WHAT DO?
     
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  10. TeeKay

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    Also FYI no longer going ortho route. Going for Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation instead with a possible Sports Medicine fellowship. :slayer:
     
  11. VLSI

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    Lol, finally overweight :) Won't be making it to obesity level on this bulk, but there's always next year.

    Didn't get to workout this morning. Ate a bad burrito or something last night and threw it all back up. My gains :(
     
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  12. Coldsnap

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    NSAIDS stuff sounds reasonable.

    Welcome to the fat club VLSI
     
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    Just in case this hasn't been seen yet.
     
  14. GraphicNovelty

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    ha this guy i'm friends with from a mud run works out at brick ny
     
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    What the fuck?! Why the hell won't you teach them to do a proper pull-up on their own before adding weight? I swear this really grinds my gears...
     
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    If people want to pay $300 a month to get help injuring themselves, I say good for them.
     
  17. GraphicNovelty

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    Well the idea is probably that it helps the bottom of the lift so you get a bit of a "push" to start, weighted or no.

    I find the bottom part of pullups to be the hardest so it makes sense.
     
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    I have bands that I've used to help me on the way to doing strict body weight pullups, but I ditched them after I could do them on my own. Three bands at once is pretty silly, though.
     
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    Yeah. I'm the opposite, I have no problem at all getting out of the bottom from a dead hang, but when I start to get fatigued getting the last inch or two is the bottleneck.
     
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    Related: What's better for those who can't do dead hang pullups yet? Band assisted dead hang pullups from lockout, or non-assisted pullups with a bounce at the bottom (no lockout)? Assuming the latter, but not sure since technically the bounce is cutting off the very bottom of the ROM.
     

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