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Random fashion thoughts

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by thekunk07, Aug 1, 2009.

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  1. Biggskip

    Biggskip Well-Known Member

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    For the most part, I don't disagree with you. That said, you can certainly do yourself a favor and get shoes that accommodate the features of your feet. Walking a lot in shoes w/o a lot of arch support can be a great way to develop plantar fasciitis.
     
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  2. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

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    I travel a fair bit, and I walk a lot. I have fallen arches, so my situation is different from Moo's. That said, I think that there are a few important things to keep in mind.

    1) Your shoes need to be lightweight. Even the most comfortable shoes, if they are heavy, will make your feet feel like lead in no time flat. For that reason, I wear sneakers all the time. Flyknits are popular, but they really only work if you have a really good handle on real streetwear, or they often just look awkward.

    2) I find that if you are walking a lot, lowtops, midtops, and chukkas are a lot more comfortable than hightops. The only thing I wear longer boots for, for travel, are real hikes, and it doesn't seem that you are going to be doing anything that will require that you to have ankle support. Chukka/sneakers will also get you into nearly all but the most anal places.

    3) You need more than one pair. After a day of wearing one pair of shoes, your feet can really stand a change to avoid getting sore and achy. Rotating 2 pairs, even if they are the same model, works well.

    My walk around shoes are a Buttero chukka sneakers and some Common Projects captoe lows or the old Achilles based captoes. If you need additional support, fit them with a pair of orthodics.
     
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  3. KingJulien

    KingJulien Well-Known Member

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    Also keep in mind that unless you have knee issues or are walking on really rough terrain, "support" and padding is generally going to do more harm than good. Our feet weren't really designed to be covered in padding.
     
  4. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys. No issues with anything... I jog in my Brooks, so they would be fine for the walking, but I want something more stylish. Maybe I'll just stick to the Brooks and my Vass.
     
  5. Distorbiant

    Distorbiant Well-Known Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
     
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  6. KingJulien

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    That fallacy really doesn't apply to biology. You can apply the same evolutionary adaptiveness principles to all sorts of things, such as food (i.e. people everywhere eating traditional meals are overwhelmingly healthier than those eating a industrialized Western diet, leading to the conclusion that "natural" diets and whole foods are better, at least until we can figure out why), sleep patterns, even weight training (barbell training is far more effective than machine training because it runs the body through its most "natural" range of motion).

    Heavily-padded shoes absorb shock from impact. Barefoot, that shock would be distributed throughout the leg, and primarily absorbed by the knee, so if you have knee issues the padding is a good thing. For a lot of people, though, the padding can also screw up your gait when running or walking (if you heel-strike while running, a pretty easily solution is to switch to a shoe like the Free or go barefoot) and prevents a lot of the smaller stabilizer muscles in the foot from doing much of anything.

    I'm not really saying that everyone should go without shoes, just to be careful of those running shoes with like an inch of padding. Just because it feels squishy and comfy standing still in the store doesn't mean it's better for you.

    Edit: I'm also totally biased because I studied evolutionary anthropology as one of my majors in undergrad.
     
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  7. StanleyVanBuren

    StanleyVanBuren Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad you brought up Clarks DB, and in this context too. I've been thinking about them recently (never owned a pair) on the basis that they might be the best warm-weather travel shoe. I like to pack light, so if I can get away with only bringing one pair of shoes (and maybe sandals or espadrilles for the beach/pool), that's what I want to do. Thinking about Costa Rica, some Clarks DB in suede would have been perfect, I suppose except for the part when it rained. But they're not that expensive, so if they get a bit beaten up (or stolen in Ibiza, or whatever), it wouldn't be a big deal; I wouldn't be ruining a pair of Aldens (which I also considered -- the suede chukka). Also the crepe sole is probably better for stomping around third world country terrain than an Alden leather sole anyway.

    My alternatives would be the MMM GATs and CPs I already have. The CPs are pretty good for a day's worth of walking but the MMMs, while more comfortable initially, don't hold up all day long.

    Talk me out of it? I know Clarks DB were really popular on the forum sometime around 2008 and have largely fallen out of favor since, and they're "imperialist rapist boots" and whatever, but I think they probably fit with the rest of what I wear and might just be the most versatile shoe for my warm-weather vacationing.
     
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    what'd be considered a good deal on cp mids? sz 39 / white, if that matters.
     
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    It's not entirely well founded. I'm not saying it's not true (we don't know), but it's also not known really that wearing a lot of padding really does harm. It's a hypothesis, there is some evidence to support it, but the strength of this evidence so far isn't impressive to me.

    Further unfounded and opinionated corollary: when we're looking at something like clothing, we should be devaluing use based on what a garment takes away, lest we all wear cargo shorts out of comfort, storage space, breathability, etc. because other items are inferior.
     
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    Get some. They will be exactly as you described. Comfortable, lightweight, inexpensive and easy to mix in w/ (what I know of) your travel wardrobe. Plus they work well sockless (for the most part.) Only real drawbacks are crepe sole/suede combo sucks in the rain and they aren't the most ankle supportive/traction granting set-up, so if "hiking" means real dirt trails, rock scrambling, etc, they may fall short. If it means exploring cobbled streets, dirt paths to the beach, markets and what not, they'll be fine.

    No one wants to thrash/lose/have stolen a pair of expensive shoes, whether they are Alden or MMM or whatever. DB's fir the bill perfectly.
     
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    Ugh i've been looking through my wardrobe and found like 8 things that don't fit me/I don't see myself wearing, looks like it's time for a massive Sufu sales thread
     
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    can't wait for greg's store will be copping shit fosho
     
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    Spent my evening reading all 400+ posts (357 of which are some form of "Good Luck" or "Nice Stuff"), and it looks like it will be a fantastic site. That said, I really wonder how much of the stuff will be "affordable". I know that GDL has talked about having a variety of stuff for different walks of life, but suits for $2k, dress shoes for $800, and sweaters for $500 is pretty steep.
     
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    cyc wid it Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that pretty much the cost threshold for most quality CM clothing? If you look at stores like the Armoury, that's pretty in line with what's to be expected. Will probably buy one of those next level handmade shirts, just to see in person.
     
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  16. Mr. Moo

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    Ball or fall skipp brah
     
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    I don't even care about CM and hopefully never will but Greg's site looks seriously awesome
     
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    cost threshold for most quality CM clothing only if you buy things at retail. if you're a SFer you look for items 70% off then lowball and ask for 90% off.
     
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    who makes nice long fairly slim knits? Cos? mystery yoox brands?
     
  20. Distorbiant

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    Seems like a lot of broscience, honestly. Exercise advice is one of the softest fields of knowledge out there. I'm not saying you are wrong or right, I just don't think approaching the subject in such certainty--nor appealing to nature--is the right argument to take here. It's a closed argument for an open, grey topic of debate.

    After all, it's a fact that shoes increase top level athletic performance.
     
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