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Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by LA Guy, May 15, 2015.

  1. marzipansgd

    marzipansgd New Member

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    Recently I made a tutorial about pin rolling and I'm curious to know what do you guys think about when you decide to pinroll.

    Of course you can't just take any pair of pants and pinroll it the same way, some would look ridiculous. What do you also think go best with pin rolled jeans/pants/chinos

    Oh and my tutorial can be found here if anyone needs it :
     
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  2. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Well-Known Member

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    its maddening how this site has become restock and sizing questions. hardly anyone with any interests beyond just consuming shit
     
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  3. sipang

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    it's nothing new tbh, probably exacerbated at the moment with the sales, preorders etc

    also doesn't help that with the current format the less consumption oriented contributions can get easily buried
     
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  4. zissou

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    I just had a vision that I am to become a professional tap dancer. I can hear the applause now!
     
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  5. ChronBong

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    grailed is the new ebay for clothing, ebay fashion is old school...long gone and nearly dead.
     
  6. nicelynice

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    Hand-dyed sashiko repairs on my favorite item of clothing, six-year-old Wings + Horns sweats
    Everyone laughed how I paid $100+ for sweat pants when I was in college, now they're my most-worn garment. Just need a couple hundred more rips so I can turn these into some cool patchwork piece

    [​IMG]
     
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    mike868y Well-Known Member

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    are there any online DIY tutorials for "sashiko" stitching?
     
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    Except they'll never know this so they probably tell stories about you and laugh still.
     
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  9. Ragechester

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    It really goes so far beyond consuming purchasable items. People are so oversaturated with the consumption images/ ideas/ "inspiration" from all the various forms on their screens that they are too paralyzed to actually do anything except spend their money. It takes a serious effort to stop and appreciate an image and actually take in whatever it is that it could potential give you. There's some interview with raf where he talked about how he didn't like tumblr for that very reason.

    @sipang what about the format causes posts to get buried?

    @Coldsnap congrats on loosing that weight, nice job dude!
     
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  10. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member

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    You need to have consumed fashion items to discuss fashion, particularly if you are geographically removed from any place where you are exposed to it regularly, which is most places.

    Fashion without the possibility of consumption and/or very extensive eduction and knowledge is extremely abstract and difficult to engage in a discussion about. Imagine trying to discuss fine wine if you have never tasted it.
     
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  11. GoldenTribe

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    Now, let's not sell SF2016 short. After all, I can click at random into the SLP thread and find an illuminating exchange like this incisive, fact-based discourse on a $700+ rtw shirt: [quote url="/t/317702/saint-laurent-paris-official-thread/8970_30#post_8308562"]
    [quote url="/t/317702/saint-laurent-paris-official-thread/8970_30#post_8308386"][​IMG] Is this obtainable? All the ones I have seen are just a drastic straight line change from orange to blue [/quote]
    The straight line is the exact reason I kind of don't like the flannels tbh. I like them, but disappointed because they look much worse than they should. The runway design is much more unique and interesting.[/quote] [quote url="/t/317702/saint-laurent-paris-official-thread/8970_30#post_8308830"][quote url="/t/317702/saint-laurent-paris-official-thread/8970#post_8308585"]Is there a way to get the runway version? [/quote] I'm guessing no. To achieve the look of the runway would have probably been way too expensive. Can you imagine how many shirt would have to be discarded (thereby driving up the cost of manufacture) because it didn't have the perfect asymmetric flame pattern that someone/some thing has to reproduce for every piece globally)? I do think the runway/ysl.com product image version is doper, but the production version is good too (haven't seen it in person)[/quote] [quote url="/t/317702/saint-laurent-paris-official-thread/8970_30#post_8309117"]I agree. The runway one looks so much better but probably would cost even more to produce. When I tried it the line is so extreme it looks like I was cut in half. Layering could ease it and I've seen some people that look great in it..I'm just not one. The other bleache effect seems to work better for me as a stand alone piece that will also be great layered.[/quote] [quote url="/t/317702/saint-laurent-paris-official-thread/8970_30#post_8309126"]yeah, probably hardly making any profit as it is at current retail price. [/quote]
     
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  12. LA Guy

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    Lol. I was going to bring up a similar example. Styleforum is one of the few places this type of discussion can be had. Try doing that on Instagram.
     
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  13. Spehsmonkey

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    Last quote is my favorite.
     
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  14. LA Guy

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    It's sounds silly, but it's probably not that far off the mark. Collection is not where the money is made. A lot more goes into the cost than design, materials and make. Look at where Saint Laurent Paris boutiques are located - in San Francisco it is right on Union Square, probably the most expensive locations in the city, just for rent. I would be surprised if that space was not at least $10-20K a day, in rent alone. And that is repeated in the most expensive countries in the world, across the world. Then you pay for sales assistants, the ever changing installation, and all the overhead of running a retail space. That's not to mention the money spent on marketing, in all of its myriad forms. Collection pieces are rarely high margin pieces. Denim and sneakers and other entry level items is where the money is made, which is why pretty much every brand of size has denim, even though denim may not be core to the DNA of the brand. And of course, accessories and fragrances. How many of those shirts do you think SLP would have to sell to keep the lights on, no profit.

    That said, Saint Laurent Paris is not some small designer brand like a Stephan Schneider or a Norewegian Rain or SNS Herning or whatever that is possibly making the designer and their staff a decent, if not extravagant, living, It's a brand owned by Kering, and I would bet my bottom dollar that Kering is trying to maximize on their investment as much as possible.

    fwiw, retail is a very low margin business. In the signal digits. This is why things like decreasing returns rates, increasing the sell through rate at retail and at the lower markdowns, lowering shrinkage *aka theft - a significant problem in retail, managing all costs, are all very important. That's why Amazon is paying big dollars for shoe sizing technology to try to decrease the return rates for Zappos.
     
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  15. LA Guy

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    Frankly, volume.
     
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  16. Benesyed

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    I've become fashion complacent. I just grab whatever Schneider items catch my eye. I used to check the runways every season now I only do if someone on SF recommends it (like the Tim coppens collection)
     
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    All those things you mentioned though are part of why SLP is so awful -- the taking of vintage/ rocker/ grunge styles and turning them into this exclusive, luxury look for the class anxious. The fancy showrooms, expensive locations, marketing campaigns, etc. All for marketing stuff that you can find in a vintage shop or Hot Topic. I'm sure they could make that shirt sell for less than $700 (there are a ton of luxury brands with much better made items on Union Square, and they don't even sell shirts for $700), but that's not the point. It sells for that amount because SLP is based on exclusivity and hype. That's part of the gross appeal.
     
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  18. LA Guy

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    Partially agree, which is why I wrote this:

    That said, Saint Laurent Paris is not some small designer brand like a Stephan Schneider or a Norewegian Rain or SNS Herning or whatever that is possibly making the designer and their staff a decent, if not extravagant, living, It's a brand owned by Kering, and I would bet my bottom dollar that Kering is trying to maximize on their investment as much as possible.

    They charge that price in part because that price is sustainable for them AND sells the product. Fashion week s one sector where you can be more attractive by charging more.
     
  19. nicelynice

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    I dunno, I took it to the old ladies at the sewing store who charged me $10 haha
     
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