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raleigh denim

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by robbie, Sep 14, 2009.

  1. warrenjl1

    warrenjl1 Well-Known Member

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    Anybody got a leg opening measurement on the original thin fits in a 32? I tried some on the other day at the shop. Fit really well in the thigh and seat, but couldn't really tell what the leg opening was like because of the long inseam stacking up on my short frame. Didn't really think to inspect it much more while I was there.
     
  2. bagley920

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  3. oilpit

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    I bought my Raleighs at my local Barneys in late August (I wish I could remember the exact date, but I have been wearing them HARD since then). It was my first pair of raw denim, and since most of this thread is about production/pricing/back pockets/not anything useful, I figured I would share my experience with this brand.

    The thing that really pleasantly surprised me is how fast the jeans have begun to fade, I have read several places (as well as seen pics) about people wearing Raleighs for upwards of 6 months and having little or no fading to show for it. After two months my fades are just beginning to set in. The coin pocket (Bic lighter) and back pockets (wallet, pocket knife, chapstick) are obviously coming in quickest, but the whiskers, stacks and combs are just starting to show some really nice, subtle, deep indigo fades that I just know will look amazing in a couple more months. The way the jeans crease is unlike anything I've ever seen, especially around the knee area, the way the denim sits is just spectacular, I can't wait to see these jeans in a year, after a few soaks.

    There are a couple things that I really don't like about them though, although they are pretty small things, overall I'm very happy with this pair. The first thing is the sizing. When I went into Barneys I was planning on either getting some APCs or 3Sixteens, however the pair or Raleighs that the employee "though I might also like" just blew me away. But the size 30 he bought me I couldn't even button, so I opted to size up one...mistake. These jeans stretch like CRAZY, I've never had a pair of APCs, but I would venture to say that I have had a similar level of stretch with my Raleighs. I basically wanted skinny jeans (I was in there for some Petit Standards or ST-100s) which after stretching is FAR from what I got. This is not to say the fit is bad, they fit me like a GLOVE, and I love them, but they stretched way beyond the level I was expecting/hoping for.

    Also...the middle button of the fly will not ever stay buttoned, I've stopped even trying, I just leave it open and let it all hang out [​IMG]
     
  4. furo

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    I bought a pair of these today at Barneys Co op... my first pair of raw denim as I'm a noob in the denim world. These didn't have a model on the tag, only labeled as "25th Anniversary" (edit: after looking at the Raleigh website these may be the limited edition "Silver Selvage" model)

    I have some fit pics I'd like to share and want your opinions on what to do with the hem...

    Just a note: these are tight as hell on my waist and I struggle to button them on my fat ass... after reading the above post I hope I'm doing the right thing.

    Should I have an original hem done (I'm not a fan of rockin' a cuff look)?

    Or perhaps keep them as is and go with big stacks?

    If I should get a hem done, does anyone know a good place in Boston to have an original hem done?

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  5. Kid Nickels

    Kid Nickels Well-Known Member

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    ^ hope you love your Raleigh's as much as I love mine... altho' I've got a skinnier cut. From your pix I would say the waist, ass, thighs all look like a great fit... if you're not interested in cuffing them, then IMO you should take at least an inch off the bottom hem. with this cut and the style you present in these pix, you got too much stacks. just my 2 cents..
     
  6. furo

    furo Well-Known Member

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    So if I do cuff them you think they'd be okay with stacking as is?
     
  7. Kid Nickels

    Kid Nickels Well-Known Member

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    they just look a bit long wearing "straight" as you do in the pic. If you give 'em a roll or two to cuff should be no problem. just depends on how you think you'll wear them the most... I have some jeans I never cuff and some I do but they have different lengths accordingly.
     
  8. Timbaland

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    I would do a hot soak first before you hem. The inseam could shrink an inch or two with the soak.
     
  9. Kid Nickels

    Kid Nickels Well-Known Member

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    if you hot soak ya... but i wouldn't do that....
     
  10. furo

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    Interesting. I generally thought that guys only cuffed with a single roll (so that you still see the red chainstitching at the hem)
     
  11. Kid Nickels

    Kid Nickels Well-Known Member

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    I guess most do one but some do two... depends on the jeans. w/ the raw Raleigh's I suppose one is more common for exactly the reason you mentioned.
     
  12. brozek

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    I don't have a pair, but I just wanted to say that the pair on the Raleigh homepage are best-fitting jeans I've ever seen (hers aren't too shabby either). I e-mailed to find out which cut they are, and they're the Original Raw Thin Fit.

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  13. ghdvfddzgzdzg

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    to Furo, that's a great fit on your Raleighs. Should stretch out just enough for you if they're pretty tight tight now. As for the cuffs, I'd say to not worry about trying to show off that red hem stitch. Either cuff as needed or get 'em hemmed--you could go to New York at some point for that; I don't know anything about Boston chainstitching. I wear mine with a lot of stacks, but I know that's not for everybody.

    An update on my pair (pictures soon): After a year of wear, I'd blown out both knees, one back pocket, hems busted up, and the denim over my coin pocket was also beginning to wear out. I took 'em to the Curatory, and they are repairing them right now. Kind of experimental, since the guy there, John Webb, said the next place I could expect them to blow out would be right next to the repairs. If that happens, as I do expect to happen at least in part, well, these will become the covered-in-patches pair of jeans I've always wanted.

    So they have them right now and are fixing them up; I should get 'em back in a week or so and I'll take pics then.

    If I could do it all over again, a. I would do so in a heartbeat; and b. I'd try to get the thin fit for a narrower leg opening, which was not available when I bought these anyway. My experience is, except the Raleighs, all under-$200 denim, and these are superior in every way.
     
  14. furo

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    Good stuff... I'm still debating on the hem but may just go with a double roll and hem later if I get tired of that

    Agree about the value though, and I got these at a steal of a price (don't even want to say how much cause I almost feel bad)
     
  15. bagley920

    bagley920 Well-Known Member

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    I have a pair of Baldwin, APC, Iron Heart and Momotaro and I choose my Raleigh's most of the time. I have 2 pair, one with a single cuff and one hemmed at the Raleigh Workshop. Personally I like the single cuff with the red stitching showing.
     
  16. ghdvfddzgzdzg

    ghdvfddzgzdzg Well-Known Member

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    Bagley, could you talk a little about differences in construction/detailing/whatever you got between the Raleigh stuff and more revered brands like iron heart and momotaro?
     
  17. bagley920

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    There are 2 main differences with Raleigh Denim and most other brands I have purchased, the "smoothness" of the denim and the much talked about back pockets. The pockets do not bother me in the slightest, actually I prefer them. They are deeper and lower down on the jeans. I tend to layer my clothing so when wearing jackets and such, the pockets are not covered by the clothing. It also makes them unique, which I like.

    As for the denim, here are my thought on the aforementioned brands. Most of my denim is not "skinny" jeans as I do not like that style.

    Baldwin- Slubby and has a chemical smell. Only brand I have ever soaked and it looked like there was an octopus in the water. Very much seems like these were just dipped in food color. The fit on these (I have the Reeds) is fine but them denim and the inky smell and feel turns me off.

    APC Rescue- Similar in look of denim to Raleigh but very different in texture. Picks very easily. Very small back pockets which I do not like.

    IH- I have had 3 pair of IH jeans and have gotten rid of 2 of them, 461's, 634's and Triple Works Straight Leg. The main issue with IH jeans for me is the washing of the denim. Some people do not like the heavy denim but I think it has its place at times. However, it seems the denim that they use does not like water at all. I have done soaks and machine wash and each time then denim comes out very streaky and veiny. Imagine the legs of an older person with lots of blue veins. This is just the opposite. White veins on blue denim. IH brass says to just wear them and eventually it will go away but anyone having worn IH denim knows that this is not an easy or short process. And nobody likes to walk around in denim that just plain looks bad. On all 3 pairs, there is a noticeable leg twist on the jeans as well.

    Momotaro- This is probably my 2nd favorite jean. Really the only issue I have with this jean is the pink color choice of the thread on the inside of the leg. It doesn't seem to make much sense to use pink for a man's jean. I can understand wanting to stand out but for me the GTW pockets do that without a problem. These are slubby as well but I have not soaked these yet so can not speak to the after on these. Only other issue is the size of the front pockets. I can barely fit my Iphone in the pocket without it sticking out of the top of the pocket. The way the pocket is sewn in as well, the phone basically has no choice but the rest about an inch away from my "junk" instead of the outside of the pocket like most denim. The pocket is angled inwards as opposed to a flat bottom pocket. Little weird, thats all.

    PS- I live in Raleigh and have visited the workshop on multiple occasions. The fact that you can see folks in the back making the denim as you're shopping is pretty awesome to me.
     
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  18. bagley920

    bagley920 Well-Known Member

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    Took a trip over to the shop on Monday and talked with Victor and Sarah. Looks like Raleigh will be releasing a new product very soon. Gonna be a black, fade to grey in a five pocket jean cut and a trouser cut. Will only be available in original thin cut. Victor said it should be available in shop within a couple weeks. They also had stacks waiting to be shipped so assuming Barney's and probably Need Supply will be getting these. Super excited about this one.
     
  19. ghdvfddzgzdzg

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    awesome. thanks for the heads up.
     
  20. Coldsnap

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    Is there good shopping in Raleigh? Moving there in a few weeks... Maybe I will stop by the shop
     

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