Raging Bull - Long Narrow Collars... really??

[comrade]

Originally Posted by mjHession

The shirt collars really stood out to me in this film, I did a little googleing, and couldn't find much evidence that these were the most common shirt collars of the time. The movie for those of you who don't know is set in the mid-late 1940's.

Here is an example;

Literally all males in the film had collars this long and narrow of a collar, is this really how it was?

Yes it was, except for that small minority who dressed "Ivy". But these "gentlemen" wear an exaggerated
version of the style analogous to the way the "Sopranos" characters dressed.

 

[CMD.EXE]

Good fa takin care of that thing you was posed to take care of fa me

 

[mjHession]

Originally Posted by comrade

No. That's "Goodfellas"
What is it then? mid-late 70's?

 

[jobro]

Originally Posted by comrade

No. That's "Goodfellas"

Originally Posted by mjHession

What is it then? mid-late 70's?
Casino was based in the 70s to specifically the early 80s.

 

[Simplicio]

I couldn't find a picture, but I believe that there are scenes in Mean Streets (Little Italy, c. 1970?) where the fellas wear their neckties unknotted, i.e., they just loop them under and then let them hang straight down.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Johnny Mnemonic:

 

[viator]

Isn't this the same as ModernTailor's "Italian" collar?

 

[mack11211]

The collars have appeared in Scorcese films of several periods.

Raging Bull was made c. 1980 but is mostly set in the late 40s & early 50s, which was a time of exaggerated proportions in men's clothing generally.

 

[mjHession]

Originally Posted by mack11211

The collars have appeared in Scorcese films of several periods.

Raging Bull was made c. 1980 but is mostly set in the late 40s & early 50s, which was a time of exaggerated proportions in men's clothing generally.

Any evidence of this outside of hollywood. That's what I was having trouble finding.

 

[mjHession]

Originally Posted by Simplicio

I couldn't find a picture, but I believe that there are scenes in Mean Streets (Little Italy, c. 1970?) where the fellas wear their neckties unknotted, i.e., they just loop them under and then let them hang straight down.

Like this from the jazz singer

Though this is a stage performance, he didn't wear his ties like this is most of the film.

 

[Shirtmaven]

i have a few customers who still request those collars.
not quite as close as Joe Pesci's but long and straight with an over lock.

 

[mack11211]

Originally Posted by mjHession

Any evidence of this outside of hollywood. That's what I was having trouble finding.
Here is one from the mid forties. Check the length of the points on the dress shirt & the sport shirt and on the uniform shirt the serviceman is wearing. It is part of a photostreeam that contains many more. After the wear, I think collars lengthened more, shoulders and lapels swelled and ties had their bold-patterned "ties that blind" moment, all part of the postwar exuberance. Jake LaMotta's first finds fame during this time.

 

[comrade]

Originally Posted by Simplicio

I couldn't find a picture, but I believe that there are scenes in Mean Streets (Little Italy, c. 1970?) where the fellas wear their neckties unknotted, i.e., they just loop them under and then let them hang straight down.

That was (is?) another "Wiseguy" affectation

 

[Nataku]

Originally Posted by mack11211

Here is one from the mid forties. Check the length of the points on the dress shirt & the sport shirt and on the uniform shirt the serviceman is wearing. It is part of a photostreeam that contains many more.

After the wear, I think collars lengthened more, shoulders and lapels swelled and ties had their bold-patterned "ties that blind" moment, all part of the postwar exuberance. Jake LaMotta's first finds fame during this time.


Yep. This style collar was fairly common from the mid 40's to the mid 50's. They made a comeback in the late 60's and stuck around for a good decade. Here are a few actual examples from the mid 40's & early 50's

http://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?...H=&GENDER=Mens

http://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?...H=&GENDER=Mens

http://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?...H=&GENDER=Mens

 

[LabelKing]

Tangential, but I just watched Casino tonight, and loved how at the end, they show the demise of the old Vegas with the visual of this gaggle of overweight people in tracksuits and casualwear stampeding in.