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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Jaggs

    Jaggs Well-Known Member

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    I have. I am 6'4", so a sized down longer last does work, within reason. My thought was the elongated last would help me when sizing down with my narrow foot. If there is another last that may work for my situation, please share your thoughts!

    Thanks.
     
  2. Gdot

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    Actually it sounds like you are thinking about all the right things. I suggest you try sizing down by 1.5 sizes. I am pretty certain you will find the toe box wide enough - I'm not sure how you normally fit in the vamp and the heal - but most likely your only possible concern will be length from heal to arch. But at 1-1/2 sizes down it works for me - my foot is just on the narrowish side of D though.
     
  3. Jaggs

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    Good man, thanks for the help. Do you have a second last suggestion, or do you think sticking to the 348 to start is the safest idea?
     
  4. Gdot

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    You are most welcome. If not for the shared experience of other forum members there would be little value to being here!

    348 is C&J's most popular last - and to my knowledge pretty much the longest one in the benchgrades. I believe the 341 is the next most popular - it fits me about the same as the 348 - but it is shorter and more oval - so presumably the forward toe space is less. But, in this regard you won't know until you try.

    Do you have access to any C&J locally? You will find them at Barney's, Ralph Lauren and even BB I believe. It might be worth checking out if you are concerned about fit.
     
  5. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Well-Known Member

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    You're getting some very bad advice on this issue right now. If you're a 13A, order a 13A from C&J as MTM. Don't size down without trying the bloody shoe. Pay the extra money you would in a proper shop as you're evidently an odd size.
     
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  6. Gdot

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    I agree ie: trying on the shoe is essential.

    However, if the sized down shoe fits well enough why should one go MTM or even MTO? It's considerably more expensive.

    You are aware that we talking about sizing down from US to UK one full size - which is normal. And then just 1/2 size more to see if it helps to manage width and length. Isn't this pretty much within normal?
     
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  7. Burton

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    Can't agree more with the advice above---try the shoe on. I love C&J shoes but their lasts are going to fit people differently. I think they have more vaiability than any others. If you are ordering from stock, and don't mind paying a little shipping, you can do a hit or miss with an approximate size. If you are going to do anything special, I would make sure I try the shoe on.


    On another topic, I bought a pair of the "Peal" (C&J) pennies from Brooks over the holidays. I believe they are on the 314 last. Just an FYI for people who have tried the Alden LHS and found it difficult to wear, the C&J is definitely more comfortable on the instep. The strap does not hurt your arch. The shoe is narrower than the LHS and I didn't notice the heel slip that some people says is there. I think the heel is narrower than the LHS. The shoe fits very much like the 341, so if that works for you then I think the C&J penny is a great play. I will post some pics after some wear.
     
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  8. Jaggs

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    Unfortunatley I don't have a local option to try on and I don't mind paying return shipping to compensate for my location. I just wanted to get as close as possible, so at worst I would only have to return one pair.

    Thanks for the help.
     
  9. Jaggs

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    Free shipping and $8 returns from Barney's. That wouldn't get me halfway to the nearest AE outlet, so it's time to try some sizes and see if C&J Benchgrade is a possibility for me.
     
  10. Gdot

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    Sounds like a wise course of action to me.
     
  11. gyasih

    gyasih Well-Known Member

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    Traded in my Drummonds for these, Xpost


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  12. wj4

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    Hi folks,

    I'm looking at getting a dark brown suede Chukka. Unfortunately, I don't see one for the last 337, which I really like. What do you suggest as an alternative last? What would be the appropriate size as well in relative to last 337? Thanks in advance.
     
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    in order of increasing pointiness, your options would appear to be

    chertsey or chiltern (224)
    chukka (200)
    millbank (363)
    tetbury (348)

    I would say the 363 is closest to the 337

    Another consideration is your preference re sole - tetbury and chiltern are on dainite
     
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    Is sizing down 1 size to 1.5 sizes a good idea? I recently acquired the RL Marlow wingtips and had to go one full size down to make them fit well. Even though they fit well now, I've read that sizing down that much isn't a good idea. What do you think?
     
  16. Gdot

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    When we are talking sizing down we are referring to the difference between UK and US sizing.

    Normally UK sizes run 1/2 to 1 size larger than US. And in some C&J people size down up to 1-1/2 sizes from US to UK size. For instance I wear an 8D US but a 6.5E in Crockett and Jones 348 last.

    To size down one and half sizes within the US sizes from your normal US size seems not likely to work - as the distance from heal to arch is likely to be too short. In other words there is more to sizing down than just reducing the overall length and width of the shoe. You also must concerned as to how the heal, arch, and instep work for you. Particularly in length.
     
  17. wj4

    wj4 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, sir. :)
     
  18. wj4

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    Picked up these over the last week or two. Can't wait to break them in.
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    If those are Edgewares in 8E, they don't fit you and you want to sell them to me.:nodding:
     
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    nice - I have the weymouth, and am thinking about the belgrave - looks beautiful
     

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